Dick wrote: Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:38 PM
>Glenn, you had suggested that those living before Adam would be
>dispatched to hell. I replied that not even cats or dogs go to hell.
>I did not say your ancestors were like cats and dogs. To be
>specific, unaccountable human beings, such as your great ... great
>granddad, would neither be rewarded for righteousness or condemned
>for unrighteousness.
Then they were human, right? They had a conscience, they worshipped idols,
built temples etc., right? So what exactly do these pre-enlightenment (in
the sense allowed by your theology) people do differently from us which
shows you that they do not have souls?
>
>>In your discourse, it seems to me that there is room for God to insert a
>>soul in a cat or dog.
>
>To what purpose?
To what purpose were we given souls? Same thing.
>
>>Are any animals possessed of this soul?
>
>I have no clue.
>
>> What evidence would make them show that they have a soul?
>
>See my previous answer.
I didn't see a previous answer. What is the behavioural evidence for the
soul?
>
>> What activity do they lack which tells you they absolutely
>don't have a soul?
>
>I don't even understand this question.
What behaviours do animals lack which convince you they don't have a soul?
glenn
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>Glenn Morton wrote:<br><br>
><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Dick Fischer wrote:<br>
>>Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 8:21 AM<br>
>>I agree! All the Bible is about real human beings.
>Nothing about<br>
>>hominids, Australopiticines, Homo erectus, or any of that
>bunch.<br>
>>Speculation about what constitutes a human being beyond sheer<br>
>>anatomy, is just that - speculation. Speculation about what God
>did<br>
>>with them is still speculation.<br><br>
>But apparently you seem to have gathered the idea that Native Americans
>were<br>
>nothing more than dog- and cat-like creatures until the time of
>Christ. And<br>
>my great...great grandpappy was equally a dog- or cat-like non-real
>human<br>
>being. Do you really expect that concept to
>sell?</blockquote><br>
>Glenn, you had suggested that those living before Adam would be
>dispatched to hell. I replied that not even cats or dogs go to
>hell. I did not say your ancestors were like cats and dogs.
>To be specific, unaccountable human beings, such as your great ... great
>granddad, would neither be rewarded for righteousness or condemned for
>unrighteousness.<br><br>
><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>In your discourse, it seems to me
>that there is room for God to insert a<br>
>soul in a cat or dog.</blockquote><br>
>To what purpose?<br><br>
><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Are any animals possessed of this
>soul?</blockquote><br>
>I have no clue.<br><br>
><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> What evidence would make them
>show that they have a soul?</blockquote><br>
>See my previous answer.<br><br>
><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> What activity do they lack
>which tells you they absolutely don't have a soul?</blockquote><br>
>I don't even understand this question.<br><br>
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