Re: History of 6000 Year old creation

From: Michael Roberts (michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk)
Date: Fri Jul 05 2002 - 17:04:24 EDT

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    Dear Stephen

    Will this be OK for starters - my chapter out of the book The Discovery of
    Time ed S McCready . I wrote this two years ago and now find I was not
    strong enough on the lack of YEC in the 18th century. Recently I have found
    that it was Buffon who devised the Gap Theory in 1770s and not Chalmers. It
    really stuffs up YEC as something which went out in c1660s with a slight
    revival in the 1820s to 1840 and bopped down by such evangelicals as
    Sedgwick and Hitchcock and really only dates back to 1961 when M and W wrote
    their little book.

    Michael

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    The Early church

    The early Christians were more concerned about time and chronology and soon
    began to elucidate the biblical chronology. Until 400AD the vast majority of
    Christians believed that the earth would last only 6000 years and had
    existed for about 5500 years when Christ was born. They argued the latter
    from taking all biblical chronologies, especially those in Genesis 5 and 11,
    literally. The former idea stemmed from "Chiliasm" - a belief that the
    earth would last Six days of millennia (from Psalm 90 vs 4 and 2 Peter 3 vs
    8). This was proclaimed, rather than reasoned, as in the Epistle of Barnabas
    (c130 AD); "Therefore, my children, in six days - six thousand years, that
    is - there is going to be the end of everything." This concern with the end
    of the world, or the coming of the Millennium, may explain their great
    interest in chronology.
    An early example is Ad Autolycum by Theophilus of Antioch. Little is known
    about him beyond that he became Bishop of Antioch in 169 AD and wrote this
    volume after the death of Marcus Aurelius in 180 AD. He was a Greek and was
    strongly influenced by Jewish Christians. At the end there is a chronology
    from creation to the death of Marcus Aurelius (d 180 AD), a duration of 5695
    years, suggesting that Creation occurred in 5515 BC. The chronologies are
    detailed and calculated from the biblical data and are not far off Ussher's
    compilations and today's' estimates from Abraham to the Exile.
    Theophilus was highly literalistic, while others, like Augustine, took the
    days of Genesis allegorically; few reckoned the earth to be more than a few
    thousand years old.

    The Renaissance

    The Renaissance was a time of broadening of horizons and exploration.
    Columbus discovered the New World; Copernicus (1473-1543) rejected the
    Ptolemaic system and proposed heliocentricity as the best explanation of the
    relation of the sun and planets. There was a revival in the study of ancient
    texts, classical and biblical, which also resulted in the Reformation. In
    all this flowering of exploration, scholarship and literature there was a
    sense of the unity of knowledge.
    It also marked the dawn of a historical consciousness but concepts were few
    and the Scriptures were some of few texts, which went back to the earliest
    history. Thus attempts at the history of the world involved the fusing of
    biblical and classical writings. An example is Sir Walter Ralegh's
    (1552?-1618) History of the World, which he published in 1614 while in the
    Bloody tower of the Tower of London. Ralegh considered the world to be
    created in about 4000 BC and also gave a long dissertation on the four
    rivers of the Garden of Eden (Genesis chap 2). Ralegh's date was the same
    proposed by the Protestant reformer Martin Luther (1483-1546), the Roman
    Catholic Cardinal Bellarmine (1542-1621), and the devisor of the map
    projection, Mercator (1512-1594). A century earlier Columbus (1451-1506) was
    more generous with 5443 BC. These few dates show how widely accepted a date
    of 4000 to 5000 BC was for the origin of the earth. The majority of
    Protestant and Roman Catholic theologians concurred on about 4000BC and the
    Geneva Reformer John Calvin (1509-1564) typically reckoned "the present
    world is drawing to a close before it has completed its six thousandth
      year."

    Chiliasm
      As the Reformation progressed some developed a revamped Chiliasm. In the
    early 1600s the Dutch Protestant theologian Josef Scaliger put creation at
    25 October 3950 BC. (Autumn was a favoured time for Creation, as the fruits
    would provide sustenance for the winter.) The most well-known Chiliaist was
    Archbishop James Ussher of Armagh (1581-1656). Ussher, whose uncle was an
    ancestor of the Queen (through an illegitimate niece of the Duke of
    Wellington), was a very able scholar and no obscurantist. He became
    Archbishop of Armagh in 1625. The most well-known of his works was Annales
    Veteris Testamenti (1650), which was a solid piece of chronological
    scholarship in which he argued from historical grounds that Jesus was born
    not in 4BC. But he is remembered for his date of creation - 4004 BC. Despite
    popular representations, he did not arrive at this figure from arithmetic
    applied to dates of patriarchs and other Old Testament figures. To Ussher
    there were six Chiliastic days of 1000 years apiece followed by the seventh
    day of the Millennium. There were four Chiliaistic days before Christ and
    thus Creation took place in 4004 BC, on the night before 23 October. Adam
    was created on 28 October. This date causes amusement to many, but the rest
    of Ussher's chronology was very sound for the 17th century as he was a
    careful scholar. ( figure n.) His chronological calculations for the rest of
    the Old Testament are close to today's estimates. Had not Ussher's
    chronology been inserted in many English Bibles from 1704, he would probably
    have been forgotten, except to historians who valued his careful work.

    Theories of the Earth, 1660-1710

    The Royal Society of London, founded in 1660, epitomised the flowering of
    science both in Britain and the continent. The work of Robert Boyle, Isaac
    Newton and others in physics and chemistry needs no introduction. Less
    well-known is the natural history of John Ray (1627-1705), Edward Lhwyd
    (1660-1709) and others. The period also saw the beginnings of a scientific
    study of the earth and their findings were published in turgid volumes known
    as "Theories of the Earth". On a first reading these seem to be a literal
    reading of Genesis stories with a few semi-scientific glosses. A closer read
    shows them to be more profound as they meld together the Bible, the
    classics, almost mediaeval "book" learning with the citing of endless
    authorities and scientific insight in a Chaos-Restitution interpretation of
    Genesis One. Here they shared the outlook of most theologians (except
    Ussher!) and literary writers such as Thomas Traherne and Alexander Pope.
    Instead of taking the Creation story to teach creation in six short days,
    writers, following an interpretation going back to the early Church Fathers,
    claimed from Genesis (Chapter one verse one) that God first created Chaos
    (without form and void) and after an interval recreated it in six days. The
    duration of Chaos was undefined. With Ussher it was twelve hours, but for
    most it was a long and unspecified duration. Some, notably Thomas Burnet
    (1635?-1715), Edmond Halley (1656-1742) and William Whiston (1667-1752),
    reckoned the days to be more than twenty-four hours. Halley attempted a
    calculation of the age of the earth from the sea's salinity, but came to no
    firm conclusions other than it was tens of thousands of years old. Likewise
    theological writers of the day; Bishop Simon Patrick (1626-1707) reckoned
    that God first created Chaos and then later re-ordered it in Six Days. He
    said of the duration of Chaos, 'It might be . a great while;.' Few accepted
    Ussher's date of 4004 BC for the initial Creation, though most accepted that
    humanity first appeared in about the year 4000 BC, hence the general
    acceptance of the rest of Ussher's chronology. The extension of time by the
    "Theorists" and contemporary theologians was minute compared to the billions
    of years of geological time, but was, as Stephen Gould wrote of Whiston's
    argument that the day of Genesis one was a year long was, "a big step in the
    right direction." In Britain the way was open for a longer time-scale.
    Fossils and Geology
    Not until the late 17th Century were "formed stones" or fossils recognised
    as imprints of dead creatures rather than formed as "sports of nature" in
    place. Only then could "fossils" be used to demonstrate former life and it
    took a century before the succession of fossils was used to put strata into
    historical order. Possibly the first person who used the succession of
    fossils to demonstrate evolution was Charles Darwin in a notebook in 1838,
    shortly before he "discovered" Natural Selection. In the 1690s there were
    insufficient grounds to suggest "Deep Time" or the continual reworking of
    the earth's crust as understandings of erosion were rudimentary. Ray,
    Whiston and others cannot be expected to have done otherwise.
      Most of the writers had some "scientific" understanding and often spent as
    much time refuting each other as suggesting new ideas. Some were mostly
    speculative, as was Thomas Burnet's The Theory of the Earth. Despite his
    devotion to the Deluge, he sought to explain phenomena naturalistically and
    somewhat extended the duration of Genesis One. John Ray's Miscellaneous
    Discourses concerning the dissolution of the world shows the beginning of
    careful observation on earth processes and questions over geological time.
    After reading the first edition of Ray's Miscellaneous Discourses, Lhwyd
    wrote to Ray on 30 February 1691, 'Upon the reading on your discourse of the
    rains continually washing away and carrying down earth from the mountains,
    it puts me in mind.which I observed', and then described what he had
    observed in Snowdonia. He described innumerable boulders which had "fallen"
    into the Llanberis valleys. (Most of these are glacial erratics.) As 'but
    two or three that have fallen in the memory of any man., in the ordinary
    course of nature we shall be compelled to allow the rest many thousands of
    years more than the age of the world.' Ray commented on Lhwyd's findings and
    seemed deliberately to avoid facing the logic of Lhwyd's comments. He nailed
    his colours firmly to the fence, and did not explicitly reject an Ussher
    chronology. However from his discussion of Chaos and other comments, it is
    fair to conclude that he accepted that the earth was considerably more than
    five-and-a-half thousand years old, but left the reader to decide.

    Time in the Enlightenment

    Often the 18th Century is presented as a geological Dark Age until Hutton
    shed light with his theory in 1788. The 18th century did not see a rapid
    advance in geology until about 1780, as observers continued the work of
    their 17th century forbears. Geologically the most important question was
    how to work out the historical succession of strata and that occurred at the
    end of the century.
      Two who broke loose from the Theories of the Earth were de Maillet and
    Buffon. Benoit de Maillet (1656-1738) was a French diplomat with a sound
    grasp of the geography and geology of the Mediterranean and amplified
    Cartesian cosmogony. His work Telliamed: or conversations between an Indian
    philosopher and a French missionary did not appear until 1748, though
    manuscripts had circulated from 1720. It was an odd work both accepting
    mermaids and reporting careful observation on marine deposition. Our main
    interest is that the author reckoned the earth to be over two billion years
    old and according to Albritton the work acted as a leaven among 18th century
    geologists.
    Buffon
    Buffon, born as Georges-Louis Leclerc (1707-88) was the Keeper of the Jardin
    de Roi in Paris and in 1749 published the first volumes of Histoire
    Naturelle, but by his death in had published only 35 of the projected 50
    volumes. His work was widely available in English. His classification of the
    natural world is of no concern to us, but his discussion of Whiston, Burnet
    and Woodward in the first volume of his Natural History is. He had little
    time for these Theories of the Earth and said, 'I reject these vain
    speculations.' However according to Roger, his biographer, Buffon borrowed
    more from Whiston than he was willing to admit. It also shows that the
    Theorists' longer timescale was wellknown on the continent. Buffon also
    carried out experiments on the cooling of red-hot globes of iron and then
    applied his findings to the cooling of a globe the size of the earth and
    estimated that the age of the earth to be about 75,000 years. Though vastly
    greater than 4000 BC, it was not drastically different from British writers
    in the previous century and gave some experimental data to support them. In
    unpublished manuscripts Buffon reckoned the earth to be 3 million years old.
    In 1751 he was censured by the theologians at the Sorbonne and responded by
    claiming that the first verse of Genesis should read; "In the beginning God
    created the materials of the heavens and the earth". This, in fact, is
    similar to the ideas of the initial creation of chaos, which was so widely
    held - at least by Protestants in Britain and Immanuel Kant.
    Chaos and Time
      Buffon went further than his contemporaries on the duration of time but the
    consensus of a Chaotic existence of matter in the early phases of the
    creation found its way into 18th century poetry. One was Erasmus Darwin
    (1731-1802), whose early attempt of putting forward a theory of evolution
    was in rhyming couplets. If Buffon is a forerunner of Charles Darwin,
    Erasmus Darwin is doubly so. Charles wrote of his grandfather, 'he fully
    believed in God as Creator of the universe.' and Erasmus's fin de siecle
    poems on evolution, considered by Horace Walpole as "sublime", reflect
    current understandings of Creation and Chaos,
      '---- Let there be light!' proclaimed the Almighty Lord.
    Astonished Chaos heard the potent word:-
    Through all his realms the kindling Ether runs,
    And the mass starts into a million suns;'
       The views of Erasmus Darwin on the age of the earth are similar to
    Christians of the time. Take William Williams (1717- 1791), who wrote the
    hymn Guide me O thou great redeemer. In 1756 he wrote Golwg ar Deymas Crist
    (A View of Christ's Kingdom) an epic poem answering the Deists. Chapter II
    of his epic poem is an account of Creation. There were two creations: the
    creation of the basic materials - Chaos - and the creation of the universe
    with those materials, all of which God accomplished 'in one hundred and
    forty four hours', as in Genesis. Though the Re-creation took 144 hours,
    Pantycelyn gives no indication how long Chaos had existed. Most other
    religious writers held similar views and only a minority espoused a young
    earth. At the end of the 18th century they also sang about it as in Joseph
    Haydn's oratorio The Creation, with the orchestral introduction on The Chaos
    followed by the aria 'And a new created world sprung up at God's command'.
    The libretto of The Creation dates from England in about 1750. An unknown
    poet took Milton's ideas in Paradise Lost and wrote it for Handel. In 1792
    Haydn obtained a copy while in England and put it to music on returning to
    Austria.
    Many poets incorporated Chaos when versifying on Creation or related
    matters. The ubiquity of Chaos is evidenced by the Black poet Phillis
    Wheatly's Thoughts on the Works of Providence;
      That called creation from eternal night.
      'Let there be light,' He said: and from his profound
      Old Chaos heard
    Wheatley was a slave born in Africa who was purchased and treated as one of
    the family by John Wheatley of Boston. The Wheatleys, slave-owners and
    slave, moved in Evangelical circles and are more properly considered in
    respect of abolitionism, but this sheds light on how the concept of Chaos
    and thus of the duration of time was widely held. Sadly Phillis died in
    poverty at the age of 31 in 1784.
    Hutchinsonian Literalism
    Very different are the clerical scientists John Hutchinson (1674-1737) and
    his disciple Alexander Catcott (1725-79). In 1748 Hutchinson wrote Moses'
    Principia to oppose Newton. Both lay great store on Genesis and sought to
    correct the "errors" of Newtonianism. Far less is made of the Chaos than in
    the Theories and Hutchinson seems not to hold that the period of chaos or
    tohu va bohu was of any significant duration. In 1868 his disciple Catcott
    wrote his Treatise on the Deluge which implied that Chaos was of short
    duration. The Hutchinsonian ideas were held by some until the early 19th
    century and the last Hutchinsonian scientist seems to have been the
    entomologist William Kirby (1759-1850), who argued for a Six-Day creation in
    his Bridgewater Treatise. It would be fair to see Hutchinsonianism as a
    biblicist reaction to the prevalent Newtonianism.
      For the first three-quarters of the century there was no consensus on the
    duration of time. What the uneducated believed no one can say with certainty
    but the case of Phillis Wheatley should caution against assuming a mere six
    thousand years as only the literate have left any evidence. A minority did
    take the Bible literally and adhere to an Ussher chronology,
    but most Christians, whether evangelical or not, stretched matters with an
    indefinite chaos with humanity limited to 6,000 years. It is difficult to
    decide whether the lines of William Cowper (1731-1800), an evangelical poet,
    who also wrote a poem of appreciation to the botanical poet, Erasmus Darwin,
    reflect a concern for geology or not,
    Some drill and bore
    The solid earth, and from the strata there
    Extract a register, by which we learn
    That he who made it, and reveal'd its date
    To Moses, was mistaken in its age.
    William Cowper "The Task"

    The Discovery of Deep Time.

    Until the end of the 18th Century the vastness of time was little
    understood. Though the priority for the discovery of Deep Time is often
    assigned to James Hutton (1726-97), the Scottish physician and scientist,
    the "discovery" was also made by several scientists in Europe in the last
    two decades of the 18th century; the Genevan polymath and mountaineer Henri
    de Saussure (1740-99) in the Alps near Chamonix in 1778, the much-maligned
    German mineralogist Gottlieb Werner (1749-1817), the Parisian
    palaeontologists Georges Cuvier (1769-1832) and Alexander Brogniart and in
    England, the Canal engineer William Smith (1769-1839) working near Bath.
    None should be given all the credit. However by 1800 the age of the earth
    was known to be millions of years.
    Bound up with this was the development of the use of fossils to determine
    stratigraphy and the historical order of rocks. Before long the succession
    of life was known with the attendant fact of extinction. The stratigraphic
    column was slowly worked out and was the main task of geologists until
    mid-century and slowly the familiar sequence of Cambrian, Ordovician, etc.
    was worked out.
      Yet no precise figure could be given to the age of the earth; de Saussure
    thought the earth to be very old, his compatriot J.A.de Luc (1727-1817)
    thought it to be tens of thousands, yet in the 1780s AbbÈ Soulavie was
    denounced for impiety by fellow AbbÈ Barruel for allegedly giving an
    estimate of 356,913,770 years. By 1820 the eccentric British
    clerical-geologist William Buckland (1784-1856) was reckoning "millions of
    millions" of years. There was no concerted attack by the church as most
    educated Christians happily accepted geologists findings, which was not
    surprising as many were clergy. Prominent at the end of the 18th century
    were John Playfair (1748-1819) of Edinburgh and Joseph Townsend (1739-1816)
    of Bath, who publicised the work of Hutton and Smith respectively. Some
    churchmen did oppose geology, but they were always a small minority.
    Christian Accommodation
    At the beginning of the 19th Century many Christian or nominally Christian,
    writers modified the consensus of the Theorists. The sequence based on
    Genesis One to Eleven of the initial creation of Chaos, re-ordering Creation
    in Six Days with man being created in about 4000BC and then the Deluge
    evolved into a vastly extended Chaos to allow for the vast time of geology
    and a multiplication of Deluges. Theologians quietly slipped geology into
    the Chaos. The first theologian seems to have been Thomas Chalmers
    (1780-1847) at St Andrews in the winter of 1802. In 1816 the future
    Archbishop of Canterbury, John Bird Sumner (1780-1862) published similar
    ideas in A Treatise on the Records of Creation. Both Chalmers and Sumner
    were Evangelicals - of an intellectual bent. This harmonisation of geology
    and Genesis was widely accepted and prevented any major conflict, but from
    1820 to 1850 a minority tried to dismiss geology and insist on a Six-Day
    Creation. Their strongest opponents were the clerical geologists and their
    supporters.
      From about 1810 the main concern of English geologists was simply to work
    out the stratigraphic order of rocks before asking more philosophical
    questions. Most geologists accepted some kind of multiple Catastrophism with
    Noah's Deluge as the last of these, and were known as Diluvialists. In the
    1820s some geologists, notably Charles Lyell (1797-1875), rejected
    Catastrophism and suggested a more gradual Uniformitarianism. Thus meetings
    of the Geological Society of London were often fiery debates between the
    Fluvialists led by Lyell and the Diluvialists led by the Rev W.D.Conybeare
    (1787-1857), when no holds were barred. These were great fun as were the
    associated dinner parties where the port flowed freely. The debates are
    often presented as if it were Lyell who introduced notions of a great age.
    He did not as all of the "Conybeare Sect" (as Lyell called his friends)
    accepted vast geological ages. Some of the humour may be seen in Henry De la
    Beche's watercolour cartoon lampooning Lyell's "piddling" geology. De la
    Beche (1796-1855) was the first director of the British Geological Survey.
    However the result of Uniformitarianism was that the Deluge was no longer
    seen as geologically significant or as the last of many Catastrophes, but
    many geologists were not entirely convinced of Lyell's Uniformitarianism.
    Lyell scarcely affected opinions on the age of the earth.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Stephen J. Krogh" <panterragroup@mindspring.com>
    To: <asa@calvin.edu>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 7:56 PM
    Subject: History of 6000 Year old creation

    >
    > I am looking for references for how old is the concept of the 6000 yr old
    > earth or creation. I know this was discussed in earlier posts but am
    unable
    > to find them. Thanks.
    >
    >
    > Stephen J. Krogh, P.G.
    > The PanTerra Group
    > http://panterragroup.home.mindspring.com
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