FW: Overlap of creation "days"?

From: Jim Eisele (jeisele@starpower.net)
Date: Mon Apr 29 2002 - 07:44:50 EDT

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    Thanks, Peter. May the Lord richly bless your efforts.
    Keep up the good work! And, I wholeheartedly believe
    that you deserve to appear immediately after our Bible
    & Science link. I will earnestly pray for that to happen.

    In Christ,
    Jim Eisele
    President
    Genesis Defended

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Peter Ruest [mailto:pruest@pop.mysunrise.ch]
    Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:07 PM
    To: Jim Eisele; ASA
    Cc: Armin Held; Dick Fischer; Stephen J. Krogh
    Subject: Overlap of creation "days"?

    Jim Eisele wrote (Sun, 28 Apr 2002 09:19:01 -0000):
    > >> I) Even some people who back Gen 1 as real history are wrong in
    > >> some places. Peter Ruest doesn't approach the issue fully
    > >> correctly. Neither does Dick Fischer. But, I guess both of
    > >> them are "too big" to see their own shortcomings. If given
    > >> the opportunity, I fully intend to begin pointing these
    > >> shortcomings out.
    > ...
    > Peter Ruest/Armin Held and Dick Fischer have done the hard work.
    > I see my role as providing publicity. And, occasionally pointing
    > out a weakness. So, here goes
    >
    > My main "beef" with Peter is that "he's quiet." He doesn't have
    > a web page with the most current reconciliation between science
    > and Gen 1. ...
    >
    > I do also have "technical criticisms." The "days" of Gen 1 clearly
    > overlap (but the beginning of each day is before the beginning of
    > the next day). ...

    Of course, the "days" of Gen.1 overlap, but only in the sense that
    whatever was initialized in a given creation epoch continues to
    characterize all of the later ones - like new geological and climatic
    conditions. And since all of Gen.1 is summarized by: "These are the
    [toledoth] of the heavens and the earth in their being created"
    (Gen.2:4), where "toledoth" is genealogy or phylogenetic tree (table of
    lines of descent), it is reasonable to expect that after epoch 3, more
    types of plants evolve, after epoch 5 more types of water and air
    animals, etc.

    Naturally, this doesn't imply that the "evening" ([^erev], transition
    from one epoch to the next) of one epoch comes after the "morning"
    ([boqer], dawning of a new epoch) of the next one. In this sense, there
    is no overlap.

    Cf. http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/1999/PSCF12-99Held.html

    Peter



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