Perhaps this is the answer to Bible versus we have been studying this
week at our church. The versus that have always perplexed me are:
11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in
me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.
12 I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I
have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am
going to the Father.
13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may
bring glory to the Father.
14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
John 14: (NIV)
I never met any one who seemed to fulfill these versus.
Walt
alexanian@uncw.edu wrote:
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> The vision of God of our whole existence is so markedly different from our own that it is difficult for humans to comprehend totally events in our lifetime. We barely understand our existence on this side of death and know nothing of the other side. The value of prayers is first and foremost to acknowledge God for whom He is and thus recognize our creaturely nature. I believe once one is totally embedded in the Word of God in a manner that our actions are governed by His will then all our prayers will be answered. Moorad
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gordon brown [mailto:gbrown@euclid.colorado.edu]
> Sent: Thu 3/28/2002 4:00 PM
> To: Howard J. Van Till
> Cc: Robert Schneider; Asa@Calvin. Edu
> Subject: Re: Current Events
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>
>
> If God can't prevent human suffering, there is no point in praying to Him
> to ask him to do so.
>
> Gordon Brown
> Department of Mathematics
> University of Colorado
> Boulder, CO 80309-0395
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Howard J. Van Till wrote:
>
> > I like Farrar's answer, as far as it goes. But perhaps this is more than a
> > matter of God (presumed to be omnipotent) merely _allowing_ things to be "in
> > their own way." Maybe it is necessary that things (creatures) must be in
> > their own way. Perhaps it is in the nature of God and of the God/world
> > relationship that the being of no creature is ever coercively overpowered.
> > If God could have intervened to prevent human suffering and death in Lisbon,
> > or in Afghanistan, but chose not to, then is not God still culpable? Does
> > voluntary self-limitation actually eliminate culpability? Seems too facile
> > to me.
> >
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-- =================================== Walt Hicks <wallyshoes@mindspring.com> In any consistent theory, there must exist true but not provable statements. (Godel's Theorem)You can only find the truth with logic If you have already found the truth without it. (G.K. Chesterton) ===================================
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