I commend you on your position that what is important is that God is
supreme. You bring up the point of translation. If you go to a univ library
and find sev diff math texts, you will find that each has a diff approach in
teaching. This does not take away from the fact that each is correct. Some
words used in the Bible may be translated in diff ways by diff people but
this does not take away from its accuracy. One may say half-full another
half-empty, but they are still the same. The question of time is not
important. With the expansion of space-time, there will be some diff in time
dependant upon sev laws of physics. This does not mean that one day is diff
nor the same as another. The question should be, is the sequence of Gen 1
the same as we now begin to observe in Evol/Big Bang. Keep your faith
strong, and mind open.
Don P
-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On
Behalf Of Troy Elliott Eckhardt
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 12:23 PM
To: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Troy's two cents.
I must confess that I have Young Earth Creationist leanings, but that I do
not claim to have it all worked out. The workings of it all, however, are
the be-all, end-all of neither my existence nor my salvation.
I must also confess that I recognize only the Authorized (King James) Bible
as scripture in English. (Do I hear feathers rustling?) There are too many
differences between the versions for them all to be correct. I also don't
care for, nor do I intend to initiate, a debate on this issue. I have
debated it before, heard all of the arguments both for and against, analyzed
the situation, and have made a personal decision. Either there is absolute
authority, or there is not. This decision is based on my belief in the
inspiration of the Textus Receptus over the Latin Vulgate, if you really
want to know.
I understand that yom (day, era, time, etc.) can mean several things when
translated into English.
The clincher for me in the "what is a day?" discussion is "and the evening
and the morning were the nth day." I wonder if we cannot trust the word
"day" in the Bible, whether we can trust the words eternal, life, atonement,
blood, redemption, salvation, etc. My concern is that either the Bible is
true or not. If it is not perfectly true, then I can throw it into the cult
section of my library, which may include works and references which some of
the readers of this forum may hold in reverence, therefore I wont name them.
Suffice it to say that I believe the entire Bible, and I believe it
literally. Merely because I cannot understand portions of scripture does not
prove the fallibility of its author, conversely, it proves my own.
I also understand that light was created on the first day, dividing light
(Day) from darkness (Night) , but that the lights in the heaven were created
on the fourth day. And I too wonder how there could be days and nights for
three days without the sun.
I also see that the Earth itself was void and without form, yet it may be
that it existed before the works of creation on the first day.
Aye, what a conundrum!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Eisele" <jeisele@starpower.net>
To: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 2:43 AM
Subject: Days of Gen 1
> To my YEC friends (and I really don't have anything personal
> against you).
>
> Where in Gen 1 does it say that the creation days are
> necessarily one right after the other? My NASB says
> there was one day, a second day...not Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
>
> I have heard much commentary over why the text doesn't say
> "first day." Could us modern westerners have misinterpreted
> before we had sufficient scientific evidence?
>
> I realize the NIV uses "first day." Everything I have read
> indicates the NIV translation is looser. This is not without
> risk.
>
> Jim
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