Re: Response to: What does the creation lack?

From: Moorad Alexanian (alexanian@uncwil.edu)
Date: Tue Nov 27 2001 - 12:25:36 EST

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    It seems to me that if in a novel the death of one of the characters has
    some significance in the overall plot of the book, then how much more the
    death of a real person in God's creation. I think C.S. Lewis gives a good
    argument for placing God outside of time. For Him all our actions, past,
    present, and future are an Eternal Now. One can get a sense of this when we
    draw a path in four-dimensional space-time where the whole time evolution
    appears as a single curve where position at particular times are fully
    displaced. Moorad

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Howard J. Van Till" <hvantill@novagate.com>
    To: "Moorad Alexanian" <alexanian@uncwil.edu>
    Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
    Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:29 AM
    Subject: Re: Response to: What does the creation lack?

    > >From: Moorad Alexanian <alexanian@uncwil.edu>
    >
    > > Howard, the difficulty with your three points is that it is true that if
    one
    > > rolls a die and the outcomes are truly random and if the outcomes 1,2,
    3,
    > > and 4 are for the house (Casino) and 5 and 6 for the players, then the
    > > outcome is in favor of the house over many rolls. The trouble is that
    if
    > > one applies that to the whole of Creation then the death of an
    individual
    > > person is a matter of the odds and can have no other significance.
    >
    > We live daily in a world in which we are placed in one "probability pool"
    > after another. Choose to fly on an airplane, drive a car, be a smoker,
    etc.
    > Members of each pool accept a probability of death by that chosen
    > membership. I do not believe that God has a specified plan for who dies
    > when.
    >
    > However, I see no way whatsoever to connect that fact with your next
    > assertion that the death of an individual "can have no other
    significance."
    > To me, that's a non sequitur.
    >
    > > I thought
    > > God knew even the number of hairs in our heads??? Moorad
    >
    > Contrary to some strands of traditional Christian thought, and frequent
    > repetitions thereof, I see our life experience permeated with authentic
    > contingency. Things happen. We celebrate some happenings; we grieve
    others.
    > In regard to events in our future, unpredictable
    > options abound. Until these events in our future actually happen, they are
    > not knowable, not even, I believe, by God (unless God exercises all such
    > options by divine pre-determination).
    >
    > So, perhaps God knows the number of hairs on my head at a specific time
    > today (a declining number, I suspect), but not the number I will have a
    year
    > from now. That number is but one drop in a (shrinking) bucket of authentic
    > contingencies.
    >
    > Howard Van Till
    >
    >



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