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From: Peter Ruest (pruest@pop.mysunrise.ch)
Date: Wed Nov 14 2001 - 11:15:57 EST

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    David Campbell wrote:

    >PR:
    Looking at cosmology: where should biological information have been
    stored
    between the big bang and the origin of life? You explicitly included
    "biological systems" among the "basic entities" which God "from the
    beginning, when the creation was brought into being from nothing,"
    gifted
    with all of the capacities needed (H.J. Van Till, "Special Creationism
    in
    Designer Clothing: A Response to 'The Creation Hypothesis'", PSCF 47
    (1995):
    123). The alternative option, that the information emerged spontaneously
    whenever needed, a concept for which there is no evidence whatsoever, is
    extremely unlikely.<

    DC:
    The spontaneous production of novel biological information occurs all
    the
    time with every mutation. Is there a threshold amount of information
    that
    you consider to exceed the abilities given to creation? How is this
    determined (both what the threshold is and whether it is met)?

    PR:
    I discussed this question in my paper "How has life and its diversity
    been produced?" PSCF 44/2 (June 1992), pp.80-94. Natural selection,
    which does transfer some information from the environment to the
    organism, is woefully inefficient doing this job. Whenever some novel
    function has to emerge (not just by modification or recombination of
    preexisting ones), at least the first few mutational steps (until a
    minimal selectable functionality is achieved) correspond to a mutational
    random walk through nonselectable intermediates. In such a random walk,
    the probabilities of fixation of all intermediates multiply to global
    probabilities of the whole process which can be transastronomically
    small.

    Peter



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