Re: Staged developmental creation.

From: Howard J. Van Till (hvantill@novagate.com)
Date: Wed Nov 07 2001 - 09:25:21 EST

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    George wrote:

            Speaking of "the continuity of the creaturely cause/effect system"
    ignores the possibility we discussed in connection with Peter Ruest's
    proposal, that God is active at the quantum level. For the problem with
    understanding measurement & the apparent collapse of wave packets in QM is
    just that the collapse seems to happen discontinuously & that standard
    descriptions of QM don't provide a closed cause/effect system: They give no
    reason why we find the photon along one arm of the interferometer rather
    than the other.
            Again, I have problems with the idea that God simply steps in &
    collapses all the wave packets. But there does seem to be a lack of full
    creaturely causation here.

    1. Re "the continuity of the creaturely cause/effect system": OK, perhaps
    the term "continuity" must be qualified here to include quantum phenomena
    (with all of their peculiarities) but to exclude coercive divine action that
    would supersede the creaturely system.

    2. Re "full creaturely causation": Looks like the creaturely system of
    causation has some openness to contingency here. Another way to say it is
    that there are numerous examples of creaturely processes for which the final
    state of some event/process is underdetermined by all that can be specified
    about the system's initial state. As I understand it, Peter's proposal
    places God's decisive action (selecting one particular option) here.

    Question: Does this divine decision (Peter's proposal) supersede creaturely
    action? Is it coercive or non-coercive?

    Howard



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