Terry,
On the contrary, I believe it reveals to us something of the mystery of
divine inspiration.
Vernon
Terry M. Gray wrote:
>
> Perhaps this remarkable result is not so much a message from God as
> it is a message from the KJV editorial committee.
>
> TG
>
> >Gordon,
> >
> >Thanks for the additional comments.
> >
> >It appears that one could now argue for the particular authority of the
> >English KJV in that it achieves, (a) the centrality of the shortest
> >chapter (Ps.117) - an outward appeal, invoking all to praise God, and
> >(b) the centrality (in terms of verses) of a matching inward appeal,
> >encouraging the soul to bless the Lord (Ps.103:1,2).
> >
> >With respect to Bruce Metzger, if the Lord has indicated his approval in
> >this particular way (as he has, for example, in respect of Genesis 1:1
> >and the Creator's name), then the opinions of generations of 'experts'
> >are of little account for, clearly, they had no knowledge of these
> >developments.
> >
> >Vernon
> >
> >http://www.otherbiblecode.com
> >
> >
> >
> >gordon brown wrote:
> >>
> >> Vernon,
> >>
> >> I don't have time to compile a complete list of verses missing from recent
> >> translations of the Bible, and so let me give just a couple of examples.
> >> Mark 9:44 and 46 are missing from the NIV. This is the sort of thing
> >> that would change the calculation of the central verse of the Bible.
> >>
> >> There are also many cases in which a phrase found in the AV is missing
> >> from a verse in the recent translations, but this would not affect the
> >> counting of the total number of verses in the Bible. There are also a
> >> number of verses that are separated from the rest of the text by such
> >> devices as including them in brackets to indicate doubt that they were
> >> part of the original text. The two long examples of this are Mark 16:9-20
> >> and John 7:53-8:11.
> >>
> >> It is interesting that although there are 150 psalms in the Russian Bible,
> >> due to splitting and combining a couple of our psalms, the numbering is
> >> different, and their Psalm 117 is actually our Psalm 118.
> >>
> >> I don't know how you can conclude that the dispute involving Mark 16:9-20
> >> has been resolved in favor of its legitimacy. For that to happen
> >> plausible explanations would have to be found for the following phenomena.
> >> I have taken these from a textual commentary by Bruce Metzger. The long
> >> ending of Mark is absent from the two oldest Greek manuscripts (which are
> >> considered to be the most reliable) and from many translations into other
> >> languages (some in manuscripts as late as the tenth century). Clement of
> >> Alexandria and Origen show no knowledge of these verses. Eusebius and
> >> Jerome attest that the passage was absent from almost all copies of Mark
> >> known to them. Many manuscripts that do contain it have a scribal note
> >> stating that the older Greek manuscripts lack it. Others mark it with
> >> asterisks or obeli, a conventional way of indicating a spurious addition.
> >> Some manuscripts have a different, shorter ending. The connection between
> >> vs. 8 and vs. 9 is awkward. The women are the subject of vs. 8, but the
> >> verb of the first clause of vs. 9 is third person singular with no subject
> >> indicated.
> >>
> >> Gordon Brown
> >> Department of Mathematics
> >> University of Colorado
> >> Boulder, CO 80309-0395
> >>
> >> On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Vernon Jenkins wrote:
> >>
> >> > Gordon,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for these comments. The text I took as the basis of my analysis
> >> > was that of the Authorized (King James) Version. However, I observe that
> >> > the NIV and NASB display identical chapter/verse structures - each with
> >> > a footnote to the effect that some of the older mss do not contain
> >> > Mk.16:9-20. It appears that other versions, while omitting these verses
> >> > from the main text, nevertheless provide them as a footnote.
> >> >
> >> > What, then, are we to make of these matters? Here again are the facts:
> >> >
> >> > 1) The central chapter of all English versions of the Christian Bible is
> >> > Psalm 117 - the shortest of all its 1189 chapters, and one that
> >> > powerfully exhorts all peoples to praise the Lord.
> >> >
> >> > 2) For the AV, NIV and NASB (and possibly others), standing at the
> >> > centre of the verse structure are the first two of Psalm 103. These also
> > > > take the form of an exhortation - but now directed inwardly at the soul
> >> > of the individual believer.
> >> >
> >> > While verses of exhortation are no rare thing in the Book of Psalms, I
> >> > suggest, nevertheless, that such common ground between these two
> >> > _biblical centres_ can hardly be attributable to blind chance -
> >> > particularly in view of the parallel phenomena to which attention has
> >> > already been drawn. Indeed, the strong suggestion is that the dispute re
> >> > Mk.16:9-20 is now resolved in favour of their legitimacy!
> >> >
> >> > Would you agree ?
> >> >
> >> > Vernon
> >> >
>
> --
> _________________
> Terry M. Gray, Ph.D., Computer Support Scientist
> Chemistry Department, Colorado State University
> Fort Collins, Colorado 80523
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