Re: Time

Bert Massie (mrlab@ix.netcom.com)
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:30:14 -0800

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Absolutely not. Humphries book is considered scientific nonsense by
most Christian and secular scientists inlcuding this one. Humphries
argues whatever but offers no connection with observables and some feel
that his work fails even in the mathematics much less the conceptual
work or the Hebrew scholarship. . Schroeder would consider him beneth
contempt.
Bert M.

psiigii wrote:

> Very interested in getting this reference. From what you're saying,
> this idea seems to correspond to A YEC cosmology (Russ Humphries'
> Starlight and Time outlines these ideas) which places the earth at the
> epicenter of a "white hole" from which the known universe was
> produced.
>
>
> Howard Meyer
>
> Massie wrote:
>
>> The problem with time is pointed out in detail by a brilliant
>> scholar
>> named Schroeder (sp?) from Israel.
>>
>> The problem is that clocks run at rates determined by the local
>> gravity
>> field. That is, a clock on the surface of a neutron star runs
>> slower
>> than one on Earth. This is a well verified consequence of the
>> General
>> Theory of Relatively, and no, it is not a plot against the YEC's.
>>
>> Where is the clock we use to measure the days of Genesis? This is
>> one
>> of the reasons that the debate over time makes no reason. Few seem
>> to
>> be aware of what every physisist knows, what clock where at what
>> speed.
>>
>> What if the clock was one that was placed in the intense gravity
>> field
>> of the Big Bang? How many days would elapse for that clock since
>> the
>> Big Bang and now? You should read Schroeders book but he argues
>> that it
>> would be six days. There are a lot of details, see the book.
>>
>> Interested? Send me an email and I will look up the ISBN number and
>>
>> post it.
>>
>> Bert M
>

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Absolutely not.  Humphries book is considered scientific nonsense by most Christian and secular scientists inlcuding this one.  Humphries argues whatever but offers no connection with observables  and some feel that his work fails even in the mathematics much less the conceptual work or the Hebrew scholarship. .  Schroeder would consider him beneth contempt.
Bert M.

psiigii wrote:

Very interested in getting this reference.  (Russ Humphries' Starlight and Time outlines these ideas) which places the earth at the epicenter of a "white hole" from which the known universe was produced.
                                                                                                      Howard Meyer

Massie wrote:

The problem with time is pointed out in detail by a brilliant scholar
named Schroeder (sp?) from Israel.

The problem is that clocks run at rates determined by the local gravity
field.  That is, a clock on the surface of a neutron star runs slower
than one on Earth.  This is a well verified consequence of the General
Theory of Relatively, and no, it is not a plot against the YEC's.

Where is the clock we use to measure the days of Genesis?  This is one
of the reasons that the debate over time makes no reason.  Few seem to
be aware of what every physisist knows, what clock where at what speed.

What if the clock was one that was placed in the intense gravity field
of the Big Bang?   How many days would elapse for that clock since the
Big Bang and now?  You should read Schroeders book but he argues that it
would be six days.  There are a lot of details, see the book.

Interested?  Send me an email and I will look up the ISBN number and
post it.

Bert M

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