Re: Time

psiigii (psiigii@erols.com)
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:35:54 -0500

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God is light, but...

Why must God totally reside within space-time (creation). That he does
reside here
is attested to many places in scripture. His omnipresence might allude to
His totally
dwelling within space-time, but aren't you limiting God? If He "spoke all
matter into
existence", He necessarily was there before space-time, i.e., there was no
matter
and therefore no entropy, and therefore no time before He initiated ex
nihilo.

Howard Meyer

dfsiemensjr@juno.com wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:55:44 -0500 Massie <mrlab@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> > The reference to Schroeder is ISBN 0-684-83736-6 and the title is
> > "The
> > Science of God." THis is not his only book but it is a good start.
> >
> > Good reading.
> >
> > Bert M
>
> May I suggest, before one takes Schroeder's view of time, including that
> the 15x10^9 years of cosmology and the 6 days of Genesis 1 are both
> literally true because of the deity's relativistic motion, considering
> one requirement of this view: God must be totally within the space-time
> universe. This precludes Schroeder's deity from being the Creator of
> orthodoxy. It may be the panentheistic deity of process theology or other
> heterodox pantheistic views, or even the _deus sive natura_ of Spinoza.
> But these are poor substitutes for the Father revealed in the Son.
>
> Dve

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God is light, but...

Why must God totally reside within space-time (creation).  That he does reside here
is attested to many places in scripture.  His omnipresence might allude to His totally
dwelling within space-time, but aren't you limiting God?  If He "spoke all matter into
existence", He necessarily was there before space-time, i.e., there was no matter
and therefore no entropy, and therefore no time before He initiated ex nihilo.

                                                                                                Howard Meyer

dfsiemensjr@juno.com wrote:

On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:55:44 -0500 Massie <mrlab@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> The reference to Schroeder is ISBN 0-684-83736-6 and the title is
> "The
> Science of God."  THis is not his only book but it is a good start.
>
> Good reading.
>
> Bert M

May I suggest, before one takes Schroeder's view of time, including that
the 15x10^9 years of cosmology and the 6 days of Genesis 1 are both
literally true because of the deity's relativistic motion, considering
one requirement of this view: God must be totally within the space-time
universe. This precludes Schroeder's deity from being the Creator of
orthodoxy. It may be the panentheistic deity of process theology or other
heterodox pantheistic views, or even the _deus sive natura_ of Spinoza.
But these are poor substitutes for the Father revealed in the Son.

Dve

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