Re: Numerology

Bill Hamilton (hamilton@predator.cs.gmr.com)
Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:26:53 -0400

>OK, you made me go look to verify my memory.
>There is a skeptical Web page about the Bible Codes at:
>http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/torah.html
>
>Among much else on this page it says:
>>
>> The first serious attack on WRR's paper was published by mathematicians
Dror
>> Bar-Natan and Brendan McKay. They found that a small change in the
choice of
>> appellations for the famous rabbis can lead to War and Peace performing
just
>> as well as Genesis.
>
>There is then a link to the paper with the War and Peace result. They also
>have links to other similar experiments that find things of theological
>significance in "War and Peace".
>
Thanks, Allen. I'll check that web page. However, I have Witzum, Rips and
Rosenberg's paper here, as well as Jeffrey Satinover's article on it from
the October 1995 Bible Review, and perhaps it would be useful to quote what
they say about the matter.

Satinover says, "It is also significant that the researchers tried to find
the same phenomenon by using the Samaritan Pentateuch, which varies
slightly from the traditional Jewish Textus Receptus. But the phenomenon
was utterly lacking in letter-level variants of the Pentateuch, such as the
Samaritan Pentateuch. Nor could it be found in other texts, sacred or
otherwise. One of the reviewers had them try the same test on Tolstoy's
"War and Peace"...but the phenomenon did not appear in "War and Peace"

I'm not going to quote from the Witzum, Rips & Rosenberg paper because I
haven't read their section on methodology yet, and you really have to read
that to understand what they say. However, at first glance it seems to say
about what Satinover said, only much more carefully written.

I think the key lies in the following from Allen's post:

They found that a small change in the choice of
>> appellations for the famous rabbis can lead to War and Peace performing
just
>> as well as Genesis.

There is considerable freedom to decide how you're going to go about such
tests, and when one test doesn't provide interesting results, you can try
something else.

WRR Merely conclude that the ELS results on the Torah don't look like
chance to them -- a respectable academic conclusion which others can and
should challenge. Some of the authors who have written popular books on
the subject haven't been so modest.
Bill Hamilton
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