Re: [asa] Re: (Santa?) [christians_in_science] Brilliant article by Dawkins

Murray,

You said>My point was that Dawkins makes much about the need for EVIDENCE to
rule people's beliefs -

So when the DI people start talking about "following the trail of evidence"
what happens is the followers of Dawkins hoot and haw and put on monkey
suits and do cartwheels. So his own followers aren't listening to him.
Apparently they only echo him because he is against what they are against -
not because they actually believe him.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Murray Hogg <muzhogg@netspace.net.au>wrote:

>
>
> Dehler, Bernie wrote:
>
>> 1. On one hand, who cares if the person believes in the E.B. because he is
>> an outstanding scientist. (Pastor Murray wrote along these lines.)
>>
>>
> No, "who cares" was NOT my point - as if my only response to Dawkins is to
> dismiss a valid claim about Collins.
>
> My point was that Dawkins makes much about the need for EVIDENCE to rule
> people's beliefs - in which case his belief about the impact of religious
> belief on scientific practice should ALSO be ruled by evidence.
>
> And the evidence is that there is NO correlation between theism/atheism and
> scientific competence one way or the other.
>
> It doesn't, I think, need great insight to see that Dawkins is hoist on his
> own petard in that he quite transparently allows his ideology to dictate his
> position.
>
> So, I am arguing "Dawkins is wrong" NOT "Dawkins is right, but who cares" -
> and I think that a necessary distinction to make.
>
> Blessings,
> Murray
>
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