Re: [asa] Re: [christians_in_science] Brilliant article by Dawkins

From: Nucacids <nucacids@wowway.com>
Date: Mon Aug 24 2009 - 23:08:36 EDT

Quotes from Dawkins:

"Can somebody who holds such anti-scientific and downright silly beliefs really be qualified to run the NIH? Isn't he disqualified, not by whether or not he leaves his beliefs outside the laboratory and the committee room, but by the very fact that he is capable of holding such beliefs at all?"

No, only a crackpot would think Collins was not qualified to run the NIH.

Mike

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  From: Iain Strachan
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  Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:22 PM
  Subject: [asa] Re: [christians_in_science] Brilliant article by Dawkins

  The trouble is, michael, though here he does not attack Christianity, in the following comment from his own website, he really lays into Francis Collins, who is hardly a creationist:

  Richard Dawkins writes:

  I know we are all supposed to say it doesn't matter how ridiculous somebody's beliefs are, so long as he leaves them at home and doesn't thrust them on other people. This is often said of teachers. For example, it doesn't matter if the science teacher believes the world is 6,000 years old, so long as he tells the children the scientific estimate is 4.6 billion. But I can never be quite happy with this. Surely the fact that somebody believes really dopey things tells you he isn't INTELLIGENT enough to teach, even if he keeps his stupid beliefs out of the classroom.

  Now, Francis Collins is a very nice man, he doesn't SEEM stupid, and I think Bill Maher was mistaken when he told me, on television, that Collins believes in a talking snake. But he presumably believes the things his Biologos Foundation advocates, for example the view that God causes miracles to happen (illustrated with a picture of Jesus walking on water). Can somebody who holds such anti-scientific and downright silly beliefs really be qualified to run the NIH? Isn't he disqualified, not by whether or not he leaves his beliefs outside the laboratory and the committee room, but by the very fact that he is capable of holding such beliefs at all?

  Original at: http://richarddawkins.net/article,4046,n,n#395050

  Not only are creationists stupid, but also folks like Collins hold "anti-scientific and downright silly beliefs".

  Really there's no point pretending Dawkins is some kind of an ally. Do you believe such downright silly and anti-scientific things, Michael? Like Jesus rising from the dead?

  Iain

  On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Michael Roberts <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

      No, I am not joking. There was an absolutely brilliant article in The Times today on the menace of creationism. Excellent stuff, not one attack on Christianity. It does have a few necessary comments on bishops and clergy put in an understatement.

    Ii is on http://tinyurl.com/nhgu7m

    Michael

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