Re: [asa] Youth leaving churches because of old earth

I agree. This is why, to me, origins is more in the category of Paul's
teaching with regard to "meat offered to idols". To elevate the subject
to a doctrinal level that would split churches seems a mistake. Yet for a
lay movement to keep harping about it and trying to stir up trouble within a
church so as to get it elevated to a doctrinal level...that ignores Paul's
teaching.

Maybe AIG (and others like them) believe all Christian denominations need
to adopt their doctrine, and are doomed to apostasy if they don't. In that
case I think they need to be content to just have their own denomination.
Thats why I asked the question, are there denominations that have their
doctrine?

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:52 PM, David Heddle <heddle@gmail.com> wrote:

> Great comments on this topic--which is near and dear to me.
>
> At risk of sounding like fundie, the bottom line is that any church that
> teaches anything close to "Salvation by Correct View of the End Times" or
> "Salvation by Correct View of the Beginning Times" is preaching a different
> gospel and is, therefore, apostate.
>
> Aside: I have a little science/faith challenge on my blog that you may find
> amusing. Or not.
>
> Science/Faith Challenge <http://helives.blogspot.com>
>
> David Heddle
> Associate Professor of Physics
> Christopher Newport University, and
> The Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Laboratory
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> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Dave Wallace <wmdavid.wallace@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Bill Powers wrote:
>>
>> Anyone who leaves the "church" because of a supposed tension between what
>> has been taught and what the world says or what reason appears to confirm is
>> no Christian, and anyone who stays because of some harmony between the
>> world, reason, and faith is likewise not a Christian.
>>
>> I seem to recall Jesus saying something about millstones and people who
>> discourage little children from coming to him. It seems to me that you are
>> getting close to a theology that in effect denies secondary causes. I
>> certanily affirm predestination but to me at least it is always in tension
>> with statements like "And if I be lifted up I will draw all men to me". In
>> a sunday school class as an adult, I recall an elder who was also a seminary
>> reformed theology professor correct Jesus' statement to say that he meant
>> only the elect.
>>
>>
>> The Church has bigger fish to fry, like sin, perdition, redemption, and
>> salvation. I would flee any church, pro or con, that spends a noticeable
>> amount of time on the issue.
>>
>> Here here! I agree.
>>
>> Dave W
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