Re: [asa] (macroevolution) (was: The term Darwinism)

My apologies for letting my frustration get the better of me.

Personally I feel it is probably time I said goodbye to the list. I
have time and again found that folks do not read what I have said or
twist it round. I've received foul abuse off-list from a lurker,
including four letter words (this from a Christian Minister). I've
about had enough. I don't think it's possible to have much of a
civilised debate here any more. I've learnt a lot, but sadly a lot of
it has been about the inadequacy of the internet as a debating forum.

I do find this kind of thing intensely frustrating. Perhaps the fault
is mine and I should retire from the debate.

Regards,
Iain

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Randy Isaac<randyisaac@comcast.net> wrote:
> Bernie and Iain,
>  May I chide you both for an excess of emotional ad hominem-like terms in
> your dialog? It does make for more colorful reading but it's not the tone we
> want on this list. All contributors should respect the person while
> vigorously debating the ideas. Please honor that goal.
>
>  Randy
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Strachan" <igd.strachan@gmail.com>
> To: "Dehler, Bernie" <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
> Cc: "asa" <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [asa] (macroevolution) (was: The term Darwinism)
>
>
>> This will definitely be my last post to you.
>>
>> You completely astound me with your willful ignorance of basic physics.
>>
>> Newton's second law says a steady force gives a constant acceleration
>> (F=ma).  A constant acceleration is the same as linearly increasing
>> velocity.
>>
>> Perhaps it's English comprehension you struggle with, rather than
>> physics.  Either way it's a futile exercise attempting to communicate
>> with you.
>>
>> Iain
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Dehler, Bernie<bernie.dehler@intel.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ian -
>>>
>>> First you said:
>>> "Newton's second law also predicts that if you apply a steady force that
>>> the velocity will increase without limit."
>>>
>>> Then you said:
>>> "Constant acceleration means velocity increases linearly,
>>> independently of time, hence without limit."
>>>
>>> So the first time you said 'a steady force results in increasing
>>> velocity' (which makes no sense in physics I think), then you said a
>>> constant acceleration means velocity increases (which is obvious).
>>>
>>> Then you conclude with:
>>> "As we know, it's wrong as velocity approaches the speed of light."
>>>
>>> And I agree with your point that it can't be extrapolated up to infinity.
>>> But what is your point? It appears that you are using that as an analogy
>>> against macroevolution, yet you said you accept macroevolution. So then I
>>> suppose it is an analogy against the DNA evidence I say is evidence of
>>> macroevolution, yet I don't see how that is analogous. Macroevolution, as a
>>> philosophy without facts, is subject to your analogy, but not macroevolution
>>> with the scientific facts of DNA supporting it. That's why I rejected
>>> macroevolution until I was faced with the data.
>>>
>>> ...Bernie
>>>
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