Re: [asa] Collins discussed on Uncommon Descent

John Walley wrote:
> I agree that fundamentally both ID and OEC are theological weapons
> designed to fight back against atheism and the perceived atheist
> hijacking of science in the culture wars.

What you say about OEC may be true of RTB, I wouldn't know as they are
invisible north of the border. Since late high school till recently I
was an OEC
because the evidence for an old earth looked very compelling. Ramm's
book was something that I had some access to before I left home to
attend university and I had a little time to browse it. In the 70s
and 80s I read some books on evolution but was not convinced because the
authors needed evolution to be true to support their world view. I was
not aware of any books like Perspectives on an Evolving Creation written
by Christians. Reading that and other books convinced me to move to an
EC position although I think some aspects of evolution are not proven as
yet.

If one reads the Bible in a naive manner YEC is the default conclusion
and OEC is the next step. In our CRC church we have some naive YECs and
I try to persuade them that the age of the world is around 4.7 * 10**9
years old. Moving all the way to an EC position is a stretch.

To my mind UcD would be much more effective if Denyse published more of
her articles on her own blogs and not on the UcD site. At least they
got rid
of discussions about global warming which does not seem to me to have
much to do with ID.

Dave W

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Received on Fri Jul 17 16:27:14 2009