Re: [asa] The Criticism Begins

From: John Burgeson (ASA member) <hossradbourne@gmail.com>
Date: Thu Jul 09 2009 - 11:25:27 EDT

My guess is that Collins will not only be attacked by Dawkins and his
friends but also from such far-seeing people as Rush Limbaugh, Sean
Hannity and Ann Coulter, for whom Collins is not seen as "Fair and
Balanced."

When one finds himself under fire from such people as the above, it
makes one think he may be on the right course!

On this same theme, the current issue of ACTS AND FACTS has a very
spirited criticism of Eugenie Scott. As well as yet another attack on
AGW -- but that's another topic which does not seem to interest people
here.

On 7/9/09, George Murphy <GMURPHY10@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> In responding to what is sure to be criticism of this nomination from
> Dawkins, Coyne et al we need to remember that the greatest threat to the
> plausibility of their message is evidence that scientists can be religious
> believers. (& not only that, but that they can be so in intellectually
> coherent - though not necessarily compelling - ways.) Of course there is
> already plenty of evidence to that effect, but having a scientist who is a
> Christian in a position like head of NIH would be a standing public
> refutation of the atheists' claim.
>
> I realize that some Christians - especially among evolution deniers & ID
> proponents - will question whether Collins' science-religion views are
> "coherent" Maybe if they announce publically that he "isn't Christian
> enough" (because he accepts evolution &c) that can effectively counter any
> suspicion that Collins himself might hold "creationist" views. But probably
> the best thing for such folks to do at this point is be quiet.
>
> Shalom
> George
> http://home.roadrunner.com/~scitheologyglm
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Cooper" <georgecooper@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:26 AM
> Subject: RE: [asa] The Criticism Begins
>
>
>> The article ignored the other side of the coin; Collin's religious
>> background is a great asset in working with religious leaders over the
>> moral
>> aspects of the activity of the NIH. How could this detail get missed
>> except
>> by those who choose to ignore it?
>>
>> Besides, they completely missed the fact that he is a guitar player and
>> entertainer (at least at commencements) and that's worth a lot these days.
>> *wink* [I too play guitar.]
>>
>> "Coope"
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
>> Behalf Of Iain Strachan
>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:46 AM
>> To: Jack Haas
>> Cc: asa@calvin.edu
>> Subject: Re: [asa] The Criticism Begins
>>
>> Hi, Jack,
>>
>> I'm wondering if your thread title is correct.
>>
>> Although the headline seems scornful, I got the impression from the
>> article that its tone was deliberately neutral - only noting that some
>> people are going to be upset by the nomination.
>>
>> It is often the case that a provocative headline is put there just to
>> attract attention to the article.
>>
>> Iain
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Jack Haas<haas.john@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Is God-fearing, gene-hunter Francis Collins fit to run NIH?
>>>
>>> Today, President Barack Obama announced gene-hunter Francis Collins as
>>> his
>>> nominee for the new director for the National Institutes of Health. If
>>> the
>>> President's nomination is confirmed, Collins will direct the nation's
>>> premiere medical research agency and be responsible for $29.5 billion
>> worth
>>> of scientific research.
>>>
>>> Collins reputation as a scientist is indisputable. But what may give some
>>> people pause about this nomination is Collins' faith in a Christian God.
>>> Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins probably would not think that
>> Collins
>>> would be a fit candidate for the job of running NIH. During an interview
>> on
>>> the Bill Maher Show in April 2008. Dawkins likened Collins belief in God
>> to
>>> a belief in an "imaginary friend" and referred to him as "not a bright
>> guy.
>>> ...
>>>
>> http://www.examiner.com/x-6378-Baltimore-Science-News-Examiner~y2009m7d8-Is-
>> Godfearing-genehunter-Francis-Collins-fit-to-run-NIH
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090708/ap_on_go_ot/us_nih_chief
>>
>>
>>
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