Re: [asa] God disproven by science?

Perhaps the answer to "Was the arrival of the translator a miracle or a
coincidence?" is "Yes."

(BTW, as I remember it was a Turk rather than an Iranian.)

Shalom
George
http://home.roadrunner.com/~scitheologyglm

----- Original Message -----
From: "D. F. Siemens, Jr." <dfsiemensjr@juno.com>
To: <wjp@swcp.com>
Cc: <bernie.dehler@intel.com>; <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [asa] God disproven by science?

> May I suggest that there is a further problem. Glenn Morton reported that
> he was in an airport and found himself trying to witness to an Iranian,
> if I recall correctly. It was certainly one who did not understand
> English well. Just then a bilingual man came along, making communication
> straightforward. Was the arrival of the translator a miracle or a
> coincidence? Can anyone give an unambiguous answer?
> Dave (ASA)
>
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:12:15 -0600 (MDT) Bill Powers <wjp@swcp.com>
> writes:
>> Bernie:
>>
>> Let me reply to one comment you make.
>> >
>> > Apparently, we don't see so many miracles in the USA because of
>> our lack of
>> faith. If this is all true, and there were more miracles, that
>> could be
>> scientifically studied. Thoughts on that? Is this a crazy
>> theological claim:
>> "Less developed countries see more miracles because of their
>> greater faith." ?
>>
>> It seems to me that, as you say, if the statement is true, it could
>> be
>> studied empirically. Probably most of us are skeptical of the
>> claim.
>> But, then again, I'm not so certain that all miracles are so
>> obvious. I'm
>> dubious of the effort.
>>
>> What has concerned me for some time is we in this age of science
>> have
>> pushed God far into the background. Indeed, as we've been
>> discussing
>> here, it is essential in doing science to do so. Even if we permit
>> Him in
>> discovery, we have become accustomed to perceive the operation of
>> the
>> world to go on independent of God's direct action. We still can,
>> however,
>> by practice or simply commitment "see" or perceive His work. Yet it
>> still
>> remains for us something of an exercise, and not generally something
>> that
>> confronts, and even frightens us.
>>
>> This is my perception and a theological story goes with it that I
>> will not
>> bore you with. I simply bemoan this fact and wonder if others have
>> a
>> similar understanding.
>>
>> bill powers
>>
>>
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