Re: [asa] Dowd, Miracles, and ID-TE/ASA-List Relations

To be precise (& why not?), the tombs are said to have been opened when
Jesus died, a non-trivial point since it suggests that Jesus death itself is
the defeat of death. The saints who were brought to life are said to have
then come out of the tombs after Jesus' resurrection.

Shalom
George
http://home.roadrunner.com/~scitheologyglm

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From: "Dehler, Bernie" <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
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> "... or the case that Ted mentioned of the tombs being opened after the
> resurrection."
>
> In the recent debate with Hitchens and William Lane Craig, Hitchen's ask
> Craig if he believed this story of the tombs opening. Craig says there
> were various ways to take it- didn't have to be literal (could be
> apocalyptic material). Yes- I think it was a weak answer... as if the
> 'apocolyptic' genre means it doesn't have to be believed...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
> Behalf Of Dave Wallace
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> Subject: Re: [asa] Dowd, Miracles, and ID-TE/ASA-List Relations
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> To my mind the first and greatest miracle to be accepted is Genesis 1,
> "In the beginning God". The most important miracle(s) is the
> Incarnation, Death and Resurrection of Jesus. Most of the other
> miracles seem mere details in comparison. Having said that, I think in
> all cases we need to ask what kind of story is being told and what
> exactly happened. For example I think that Job is an epic and not meant
> to be taken literally. In some cases I don't know what to think, for
> example Jonah or the case that Ted mentioned of the tombs being opened
> after the resurrection.
>
> To make it concrete I have no problem with the feeding of the 5
> thousand, walking on water or turning the water into wine.
>
> Dave W
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