RE: [asa] Proof (was: Our discourse here)

Bernie says:
The big picture: there are only two general ways in which humans were
biologically made: Either by fiat (a miracle from God from scratch-
scooping/forming dirt and breathing life into it) or by evolution from lower
animals.

I respond:
This is the point at which I disagree. And it is not just a specific
disagreement with this statement but a deep philosophical disagreement with
what this statement represents.

The TE position is that God works through natural mechanisms, and only
through natural mechanisms. Yet we know this isn't true, and the average TE
knows and accepts that it isn't true. Specific examples are the creation of
the universe and the resurrection of Christ. I don't think there is anyone
on this list who would disagree with me on those two points. Of course, the
TE position is that these are exceptions to the rule. The question then
becomes: are these the only exceptions? What about these other purported
supernatural events?

Matthew 1:20 - virgin birth
Micah 5:2 - the prophecy of Jesus' birth in Bethlehem, mentioned in Matthew
2:6
Matthew 2:13 - Angel of the Lord appears to Joseph in a dream
Jeremiah 31:15 - prophecy mentioned in Matthew 2:18
Isiah 40:3 - prophecy mentioned in Matthew 3:3
Matthew 3:16-17 - the Spirit of God descended and spoke from heave.

I could go on. This is from just the first few chapters of Matthew. I could
fill up pages with examples of miracles, signs, and wonders. But let's just
leave it here, for now.

Your reply, sir?

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Received on Thu Feb 26 19:10:32 2009