Re: [asa] Ray Comfort vs. Dawkins

Oscar

Remember that whatever the result or whatever the arguments presented, the debate will be presented as a victory for creationism. Also there are times when the debate is misreported as I know for myself.

However there is the great irony that creationists always win debates and always lose court cases on the teaching of evolution from Arkansas to Dover.

Michael
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  From: Oscar Gonzalez
  To: Michael Roberts
  Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [asa] Ray Comfort vs. Dawkins

  Dawkins reacted as he promised when creationists would invite him. See his book The Devil´s chaplain.

  He says that creationists don´t matter to stand as fools in a debate, just like to be proud to appear in the media having confronted an evolutionist.
    
   
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  De: Michael Roberts <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
  Para: "Dehler, Bernie" <bernie.dehler@intel.com>; ASA list <asa@calvin.edu>
  Enviado: miércoles, 25 de febrero, 2009 17:51:45
  Asunto: Re: [asa] Ray Comfort vs. Dawkins

  I chuckled at this!! I particularly liked Dawk's insistence that a staff member should film it. That should stop any edited versions being published as has happened with some others.

  I would do it for $50000 without expenses as I qualify as an atheist under 2nd century definitions:)

  Michael
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Dehler, Bernie
    To: ASA list
    Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:45 PM
    Subject: RE: [asa] Ray Comfort vs. Dawkins

    Update: Dawkins declined the debate.

    RE: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89825

    Excerpt:

    Atheist Richard Dawkins has rejected an offer of $10,000 for an hour-long debate with Christian author Ray Comfort, telling WND he would participate in the argument only on a list of conditions, including a $100,000 donation to his foundation.

    Dawkins also is demanding that a staff member for his website be allowed to film the event and then distribute it as a DVD, "if he thinks it is funny enough."

    As WND reported, Comfort, author of the new book "You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence but You Can't Make Him Think," offered Dawkins $10,000 for a debate on creation, evolution and life. A spokeswoman for Dawkins' website earlier told WND Dawkins doesn't debate people from "the flat-earth society."

    The challenge from Comfort, who also is co-host with actor Kirk Cameron of the award-winning TV show "The Way of the Master," wasn't taken seriously by Dawkins.

    "Ten thousand dollars is less than the typical fee that I am ordinarily offered for lecturing to a serious audience (I often don't accept it, especially in the case of a student audience, because I am a dedicated teacher)," he wrote in response to a WND question about the challenge.

    "It is not, therefore, a worthwhile inducement for me to travel all the way across the Atlantic to debate with an ignorant fool," he wrote. "You can tell him that if he donates $100,000 to the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science (it's a charitable donation, tax deductible) I'll do it."

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