Re: [asa] Fear and Loathing on this list

The Dominican who taught the coourse I took on Matthew in seminary commented when we got to this chapter, "You probably won't preach on Matthew 23 very much - unless you're a neo-Nazi.

Shalom,
George

---- "D. F. Siemens wrote:
> Preston,
> I note that you are comparing two groups with whom you meet and this
> list. While I agree that being polite is relevant, I have to note that
> there is a very different feel to face to face communication and the
> semi-anonymity of e-mail and other computer postings. There have been
> recent stories about people posting their nude photos on the Web, though
> the have been none that I have seen of any of them walking about town. I
> do recall a number of incidents of streaking, however.
>
> Additionally, I would call your attention to Matthew 23. I know of only
> one set of sermons with that chapter as the text. Out of curiosity, do
> any of the group know of a sermon based on that chapter? Additionally,
> it's been a while since I have heard a sermon explicitly on sin or on
> hell.
> Dave (ASA)
>
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:58:34 -0600 Preston Garrison <pngarrison@att.net>
> writes:
> > All,
> >
> > I have been lurking on this list more in recent weeks than I have
> > for
> > several years. As always there are brilliant people discussing deep
> >
> > topics. But there is something else that is consistent. There is a
> > constant current of sarcasm, declarations of war against this group
> >
> > or that, expressions of fear and despair about what is supposedly
> > befalling the church, and declarations from on high of what God
> > thinks about this or that.
> >
> > In the same period I have been meeting with two separate groups of
> > people locally. Both are composed of mixes of believers and atheists
> >
> > and agnostics, with a preponderance of unbelievers. In both of those
> >
> > groups, serious topics are discussed, scientific, political,
> > religious and philosophical, but everyone is treated with mutual
> > respect, there is humor, self-deprecation and even love. Even the
> > servers who bring the coffee are known and time is taken for them by
> >
> > both believers and unbelievers.
> >
> > I recently recommended this list indirectly to a young man who is
> > very intelligent and troubled about theological and scientific
> > issues. I have to say at this point that I think I made a mistake in
> >
> > doing so. If he looks here, he will find much more education and
> > brilliance than in the average church, but too much savagery for him
> >
> > to get much out of the intelligence.
> >
> > I just opened my Bible "randomly" to the following verse:
> >
> > If any man thinks himself religious, but does not bridle his tongue,
> >
> > but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is WORTHLESS. -
> > James 1:26
> >
> > Enough. Stop it. Repent. Consider that that none of us is right
> > about
> > everything. It isn't all of you. It is the same subset over and over
> >
> > and over again. You know who you are. Ask our Lord and the people
> > you
> > are insulting to forgive you and start praying for your intellectual
> >
> > enemies. Don't respond to me. It isn't me you have offended.
> >
> > Preston Garrison
> >
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