RE: [asa] Darwin's anti-slavery Sacred Cause

Indeed, think "damage control."
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On
Behalf Of Dick Fischer
  Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:46 AM
  To: 'Nucacids'
  Cc: ASA
  Subject: RE: [asa] Darwin's anti-slavery Sacred Cause

  Hi Mike:

  Christians should be capable of attacking fallacies, hoaxes, and heresies
without attacking those who concoct, perpetrate, and perpetuate them.

  Dick Fischer, GPA president

  Genesis Proclaimed Association

  "Finding Harmony in Bible, Science and History"

  www.genesisproclaimed.org

  -----Original Message-----
  From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of Nucacids
  Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:00 PM
  To: Schwarzwald; asa@calvin.edu
  Subject: Re: [asa] Darwin's anti-slavery Sacred Cause

  “Until more TEs realize that Christians in general - not just YECs - are
attacked by secularists as being fundamentally 'anti-science', their impact
will be limited. Denouncing YECs is not enough, and will never be enough. A
fight has to be opened against people who insist that evolution is not
compatible with God - or better yet, against those who argue that teleology
does not and cannot exist in nature, much less evolution.”

  This analysis is spot on. We only need look to what’s happening with Ken
Miller to confirm it. Jerry Coyne publicly attacked him as a creationist
and likened his faith to adultery and Sam Harris, Dan Dennett, and Stephen
Pinker have piled on. TEs around here seem to have responded with little
more than a yawn.

  Imagine what the average church goer sees. Mainstream scientists attack
Christianity in the name of science. TEs respond by attacking YECs.

  Mike

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: Schwarzwald

    To: asa@calvin.edu

    Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:24 AM

    Subject: Re: [asa] Darwin's anti-slavery Sacred Cause

    While I have no sympathy for the YEC view, I think quite a lot of damage
has been done by secularists who have happily insisted that one cannot both
accept evolution and at the same time believe in God, much less
Christianity, in the desire to use evolution and science in general as a
stick to beat religion with. Unfortunately, many have shown that if they
have to make such a false choice, they won't pick what secularists hoped
they would.

    Until more TEs realize that Christians in general - not just YECs - are
attacked by secularists as being fundamentally 'anti-science', their impact
will be limited. Denouncing YECs is not enough, and will never be enough. A
fight has to be opened against people who insist that evolution is not
compatible with God - or better yet, against those who argue that teleology
does not and cannot exist in nature, much less evolution.

    On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Dick Fischer <dickfischer@verizon.net>
wrote:

    "A recent Pew survey found that fewer than 10 percent of evangelical
Christians believe life evolved through natural selection. Secular Americans
were the only respondents who voiced majority support for the theory."

    Truly sad. YECs have done there fowl damage while we lack the courage
to speak out. If ASA can't take a stand I guess we have to leave it to good
old reliable secular Americans. Maybe we can generate more of them.

    Dick Fischer, GPA president

    Genesis Proclaimed Association

    "Finding Harmony in Bible, Science and History"

    www.genesisproclaimed.org

    -----Original Message-----
    From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of Jack Haas
    Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:21 AM
    To: ASA list
    Subject: [asa] Darwin's anti-slavery Sacred Cause

    This carefully researched work takes a new twist on Darwin. It is one
book worth
    reading out of the torrent that is appearing.
    JWH
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    Some Christians Protest Darwin's Birthday. Is Their Antagonism
Misplaced?

    Not everyone is celebrating the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's
birth. Some are protesting. A Christian ministry called Answers in Genesis
is holding anti-Darwin conferences on the East and West coasts this month,
aimed at helping Americans "understand that Darwinian evolution is wrong and
that it has undermined the Christian faith and has fueled social ills like
racism and abortion." Faith-based opposition to Darwin is hardly consigned
to the religious fringe. A recent Pew survey found that fewer than 10
percent of evangelical Christians believe life evolved through natural
selection. Secular Americans were the only respondents who voiced majority
support for the theory.

    A new book, Darwin's Sacred Cause, argues that Christian antagonism
toward Darwin is misplaced. Acclaimed Darwin biographers Adrian Desmond and
James Moore portray a Christian Darwin who was driven by his faith-based
opposition to slavery to prove the common origin of the human race. A theory
of common human decency, Darwin believed, would undermine a key precept of
the slave trade: that blacks comprise an inferior race separate from
whites.... (Interview with Moore)

    US News & World Report
    Full Story at
<http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-country/2009/02/13/charles-darwin-chris
tian.html>
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