Re: [asa] Re: Endgame

From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. <dfsiemensjr@juno.com>
Date: Mon Feb 02 2009 - 18:10:58 EST

Bernie,
In considering human evolution, your need to remember that the fetal head
is as large as can be accommodated by the mother's pelvis. So the notion
of bigger brains is nixed. The pictures of aliens with big heads and
narrow hips are an impossibility. There was a recent report that the
Neanderthal newborn had a head almost identical in size to that of Homo
sapiens. So size was preserved across species. Of course, if males and
females diverge, with the females becoming sessile because of the vast
increase in hips to accommodate a birth canal big enough to pass a keg,
brain size may increase tremendously.
Dave (ASA)

On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:32:45 -0800 "Dehler, Bernie"
<bernie.dehler@intel.com> writes:
> Gordon said: "I seem to recall reading in some secular publication
> that Francis Collins believes that humans will not evolve into
> something else."
>
> I'd like to see that quote in context. I don't see how anyone who
> accepts evolution would think that we would still be the same in 2
> million years from now (as if we were even the "same" now).
>
> The really interesting thing about human evolution is that humans
> are the only creature interbreeding all over the world- no
> geographic separation at all (a few isolated tribes aren't really
> all that isolated, and won't be isolated too much in the next 1
> million years). This worldwide interbreeding likely slows
> everything down- or may create a brand new effect never before seen
> in biological evolution.
>
> ...Bernie
>
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>
> On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Dehler, Bernie wrote:
>
> >
> > As far as I know, everyone who accepts biological evolution also
> thinks that biology is still evolving- we have seen the end of
> nothing, biologically. And if we stay on earth for another 1 to 3
> million years, then I'd expect to see some major biological changes.
> And knowing humans, these biological changes WILL be
> directed/influenced by the human mind (known as "intelligent
> design," I suppose) via human genetic engineering. What we can do
> will be influenced by our ethics (known as memes). This brings up
> an interesting idea of memes being a major evolutionary mechanism
> upon genes, whereas memes arose from genes.
> >
>
> I seem to recall reading in some secular publication that Francis
> Collins
> believes that humans will not evolve into something else.
>
> Gordon Brown (ASA member)
>
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