Re: [asa] The Challenge (was Advice for conversing with YECs)

I realise on reflection I should not have sent this.

Apologies especially to Vernon

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
To: "John Burgeson (ASA member)" <hossradbourne@gmail.com>
Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [asa] The Challenge (was Advice for conversing with YECs)

> Slightly mischievous, but Foolscap is the old standard British sized paper
> , slightly longer than A4. We used it till 30 years ago, along with
> Quarto. The maths would be more complex:) Perhaps foolscap never crossed
> the pond?
>
> Michael
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Burgeson (ASA member)" <hossradbourne@gmail.com>
> To: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
> Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [asa] The Challenge (was Advice for conversing with YECs)
>
>
>> Michael -- a person can be wrong w/o being a fool.
>>
>> jb
>>
>> On 11/7/08, Michael Roberts <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Vernon
>>>
>>> I am beginning to wonder if this would work on paper of foolscap size ,
>>> or
>>> wouldn't you wear it:)
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Burgeson (ASA member)" <hossradbourne@gmail.com>
>>> To: "Vernon Jenkins" <vernon.jenkins@virgin.net>
>>> Cc: "Iain Strachan" <igd.strachan@gmail.com>; "Dehler, Bernie"
>>> <bernie.dehler@intel.com>; <asa@calvin.edu>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 4:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [asa] The Challenge (was Advice for conversing with YECs)
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 11/6/08, Vernon Jenkins <vernon.jenkins@virgin.net> wrote (in part:
>>>>
>>>> "Here is what I have written in the introduction to this persuasive
>>>> piece:
>>>>
>>>> " The triangle-based structure of the Bible's eight opening Hebrew
>>>> words ... has hitherto largely involved a consideration of the sums of
>>>> unbroken sequences of their characteristic values (CVs) - these latter
>>>> determined by the scheme of alphabetic numeration instituted circa 200
>>>> BC into Jewish society... In this page attention is switched to the
>>>> differences of these same CVs. As we shall find, they too reveal
>>>> triangularity, but of a kind that - though completely independent of
>>>> the former - is no less remarkable, being essentially based upon a
>>>> rare event, viz. two positive integers, one the double of the other,
>>>> both triangles. At the same time we shall examine afresh the
>>>> extraordinary relationships that exist between these triangles, the
>>>> Hebrew words from which they derive, and the metric dimensions of an
>>>> abundant modern artefact - the A4 sheet of cut paper. Further, we
>>>> shall attempt to assign a probability to this train of coincidences."
>>>>
>>>> Vernon -- I understand that you see something very significant in the
>>>> above. You must also understand that to many of us -- perhaps all of
>>>> us -- there is no "there" there. Just numerical coincidences. The
>>>> tying of it to A4 paper is seen as simply silly.
>>>>
>>>> Having said this, let me for a moment cast aside my incredulity and
>>>> accept your claims above to be true. That makes them interesting, and
>>>> possibly of some limited evengelistic use to professors of
>>>> mathematics. But because they are so far removed from understanding,
>>>> they are probably of more use in evangelizing the mathematically
>>>> challenged. Or those who still beliee in spooks, faries and
>>>> horoscopes.
>>>>
>>>> Going on -- given your very peculiar claims are true, they have NO
>>>> evidentiary/apologetic use in defending the YEC view, attaching the
>>>> science of evolution, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Burgy
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Burgy
>>
>> www.burgy.50megs.com
>>
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