Re: sacraments as means of grace (was Re: [asa] Pregnancy & Communio)

Sadly there are many protestants and evangelicals who undervalue the
sacraments and we even have them in the Church of England

Michael
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From: "Dehler, Bernie" <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
To: "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:47 AM
Subject: RE: sacraments as means of grace (was Re: [asa] Pregnancy &
Communio)

Pastor Murray said: " ...could you expand a little on your thinking?"

I think George was saying it was a "mistake" to not think that "the
sacraments are a means of grace." My point- I think most Protestants reject
the notion of "the sacraments are a means of grace." The link I gave showed
the protestant denominations. The largest by far is Southern Baptist, who
take communion as symbolic and not as a "means of grace." Therefore, I
think it is a mistake to say it is a mistake, as George did, unless one
thinks that most Protestants are wrong.

...Bernie

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From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of Murray Hogg
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:39 PM
To: ASA
Subject: sacraments as means of grace (was Re: [asa] Pregnancy & Communio)

Hi Bernie,

I'm not clear on the significance of the link you posted in the below -
could you expand a little on your thinking?

Thanks,
Murray Hogg
Pastor, East Camberwell Baptist Church, Victoria, Australia
Post-Grad Student (MTh), Australian College of Theology

Dehler, Bernie wrote:
> George said: "The idea that there is some conflict between justification
> by faith and belief that the sacraments are means of grace is a basic
> error that afflicts many of the protestants you mention."
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>
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> Don't the majority of Protestants reject "the sacraments are means of
> grace?" Looks that way to me, from this source:
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> http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#families
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> I wouldn't say "they have a basic error" but more likely accept it as a
> genuine disagreement within the Christian faith.
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>
>
> ...Bernie

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