Re: [asa] Timaeus--ID isn't "god of the gaps"

Hi David,

Sure. But I'm talking about an investigative perspective, which must remain open-ended. An investigative perspective is limited by our ability to both gather and process relevant data and thus can only deliver a snippet of reality. So yes, appearances may not be reality.

Mike

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: David Opderbeck
  To: Nucacids
  Cc: Randy Isaac ; asa@calvin.edu
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [asa] Timaeus--ID isn't "god of the gaps"

  A significant problem I have with all this is that, from a Christian perspective, all "negatives" are "false" negatives, and all evolution is teleological.

  David W. Opderbeck
  Associate Professor of Law
  Seton Hall University Law School
  Gibbons Institute of Law, Science & Technology

  On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Nucacids <nucacids@wowway.com> wrote:

    Hi Randy,

    I don't use the explanatory filter.

    "What happens to the argument if there is NO discontinuity?" It depends on the score for the other three criteria - analogy, rationality, and foresight. If they score strongly positive, then I'd score the thing in question as an example of teleologic/guided evolution.

    Mike
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Randy Isaac
      To: asa@calvin.edu
      Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:28 AM
      Subject: Re: [asa] Timaeus--ID isn't "god of the gaps"

      Mike,
        I must be missing something since I don't comprehend. This link doesn't provide all of the relevant text so I clearly need the additional information. But this snippet is still significant: "But the most significant aspect of this analysis is that it demonstrates that our design inference for the genetic code is not rooted in a " god-of-the-gaps" argument. Such an argument would have a defining pattern of gray-white-gray-gray, where the only indicator of design would be an argument for discontinuity."

      If I understand you correctly, you are saying that the "god of the gaps" critique doesn't apply because "discontinuity" is not the "only" indicator. But I'm asking a different question. What happens to the argument if there is NO discontinuity? I don't know what your scale is but what happens if there is no discontinuity and the explanatory filter criteria are not met?

      Randy
        Mike wrote:
        Subject: Re: [asa] Timaeus--ID isn't "god of the gaps"

        Hi Randy,

        I cannot speak for Timaeus, but I can speak for myself:

        http://www.thedesignmatrix.com/content/god-of-the-gaps-in-the-matrix/

        -Mike

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