Any petroleum geologist will tell you that oil formed in deep sedimentary rock and then migrated upward to a different layer of porous sedimentary
rock called reservoir rock.
Partly true, but considerable oil has "migrated" downwards, being generated in shales and "squeezed" into lower layers.
Sedimentary rock was...laid down by water.
Or wind, landslides, etc.
The presence of porphyrins in oil is compelling evidence that the formation of oil had to occur quickly
Non sequitur; there's no reason the porphyrins couldn't have been isolated from oxygen for a long time.
The forest floor of a rain forest will yield no petroleum or coal or any fossils of any kind because the dead organic matter will rot away very quickly in the moist tropical heat
Only if it doesn't get buried or smothered with anoxic swamp water.
It is apparent that the massive sediment beds that yield the billions of barrels of crude oil so much in demand today had to have been laid down very quickly during an extreme catastrophe.
No. Most oil comes from marine plants (e.g., phytoplankton) that precipitated out slowly.
Creationists have for decades pointed to the millions of square miles of thick layers of sedimentary rock as evidence of a global catastrophe.
True, but they've obviously never looked closely at those sedimentary rocks or they would certainly have concluded that (1) not all could have been laid down quickly, and (2) there were many, many episodes of deposition, not just one. If they did the calculations, they'd find they'd also have a very hard time explaining where all those cubic miles of sediment could have come from. And that's just the beginning of the problems with that model.
The worldwide flood of Noah's day involved trillions of tons of water flowing over the continents sweeping away forests, swamps and prairies.
An event of such violence would have scattered the organic matter far and wide and would not have allowed the kind of accumulations that would lead to observed deposits of coal and oil. There also could not have been enough organic matter in existence at any one time to account for the quantities of coal and oil observed today. Under any scenario one must assume that most of the organic matter would have decayed and vanished. Most of it in a violent flood would float on top of flood waters and eventually come to rest on some land surface, where it would decay.
This nonporous layer of rock is called the cap rock.
No, it isn't. Cap rock has several definitions, but this isn't one of them. Petroleum geologists often call this impermeable layer of rock the "reservoir seal" rock.
All oil fields leak over time.
True.
This too is proof of young earth because if the oil fields were millions of years old as secular geologists claim, the oil would have leaked out ages ago.
Non sequitur. Permeability can be extremely low with correspondingly low leakage rates.
Evolutionary geologists have also not adequately explained how fragile organic chemicals, such as porphyrins, could form in oil under the gradual, oxygen rich conditions they claim.
Who are "they" who claim the conditions were oxygen-rich?
Don
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Sorry have not posted for a while. I would like to know how best to
rebut this. NO background in geology (Or oil!) am afraid.
iain
Origin of petroleum: proof of young earth
In this time of energy crisis it will be useful to take a look at
how oil
formed. Any petroleum geologist will tell you that oil formed in
deep
sedimentary rock and then migrated upward to a different layer of
porous sedimentary
rock called reservoir rock.
Sedimentary rock, as its name suggests, was formed by particles
that eroded
off of a continent and were laid down by water. Often the
sediments contain
dead plant and animal matter. The water and dissolved minerals
among the
particles act as a natural cement that hardens to turn the eroded
particles into
solid rock. Oil forms in this sedimentary rock only if there is a
sufficient
amount of biological debris among the particles that were laid
down.
All plant and animal life contains highly complex long chain
hydrocarbons.
When plants and animals are buried, crushed and heated in sediment
the long
chain hydrocarbons are broken down to the short chain hydrocarbons
found in
oil.
It is interesting to note that all petroleum contains certain
chemical
compounds common in both the chlorophyll of plants and hemoglobin
of blood. These
chemical compounds are called porphyrins. Porphyrins are very
fragile
compounds that break down quickly in the presence of oxygen.
The presence of porphyrins in oil is compelling evidence that the
formation
of oil had to occur quickly in an environment free of oxygen. The
standard
old earth view that the sediments that formed oil were laid down
over millions
of years is thus rendered absurd.
Since plant and animal matter breaks down and rots very rapidly in
the
presence of oxygen any slowly forming sediment bed such as a river
delta, which is
oxygen rich, will yield no fossil fuels. The forest floor of a
rain forest
will yield no petroleum or coal or any fossils of any kind because
the dead
organic matter will rot away very quickly in the moist tropical
heat.
It is apparent that the massive sediment beds that yield the
billions of
barrels of crude oil so much in demand today had to have been laid
down very
quickly during an extreme catastrophe. Creationists have for
decades pointed to
the millions of square miles of thick layers of sedimentary rock
as evidence
of a global catastrophe. The only catastrophe that was capable of
producing
such continent wide geological phenomena is the worldwide flood
described in
Genesis.
The worldwide flood of Noah's day involved trillions of tons of
water
flowing over the continents sweeping away forests, swamps and
prairies. This
organic matter was mixed with huge amounts of eroded sediments and
rapidly laid
down over vast distances.
This slurry of sand, clay, volcanic ash and organic matter formed
the ideal
conditions for oil to form. It buried the organic matter deep
enough to be
void of oxygen and to have sufficient pressure and heat to cause
oil and natu
ral gas to form.
The oil formed in one layer of sedimentary rock and then migrated
upward and
pooled in more porous sedimentary rock called reservoir rock.
There is
usually a layer of nonporous rock above the reservoir rock that
traps the oil in
the reservoir. This nonporous layer of rock is called the cap
rock. If there
is no cap rock above the reservoir rock the oil will keep
migrating until it
pours out onto the surface in tar pits like we find in
California, Venezuela
and in certain parts of the middle East. Most oil pools are
trapped by cap
rock.
It is interesting to note that no oil field is completely
restrained by cap
rock. All oil fields leak over time. This too is proof of young
earth because
if the oil fields were millions of years old as secular geologists
claim,
the oil would have leaked out ages ago. Creationists have pointed
out this fact
for years. Old earth evolutionists have developed many complicated
theories
to explain how oil could remain trapped for millions of years.
Their theories
are far fetched and offer no compelling proof of their position.
Evolutionary geologists have also not adequately explained how
fragile
organic chemicals, such as porphyrins, could form in oil under the
gradual, oxygen
rich conditions they claim. The claim by evolutionists that
porphyrins could
remain stable in oil over millions of years also stretches
credulity. By the
way, all coal contains carbon 14 and this would be impossible if
coal beds
were millions of years old!
Creationist website _www.answersingenesis.org_
(http://www.answersingenesis.org/<http://www.answersingenesis.org/>) contains articles about oil
formation and many other proofs of young
earth. The earth was created within the biblical timeframe of
thousands, not
billions of years.
The duty of an objective scientist is go where the facts lead. The
facts of
petroleum geology clearly point to young earth and to the global
catastrophe
which was the biblical flood of Noah's day.
Bill in New Hampshire
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