Re: [asa] Proof That Common Descent is NOT Begging the Question

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Nucacids <nucacids@wowway.com> wrote:

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> "You say it is absurd. Fine. But the simple fact remains that if it is
> natural, science can address it."
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> That's not a fact, that is an opinion that appears to be rooted in
> scientism. You, and what you do, are natural PvM. Yet science cannot tell
> me what you did yesterday afternoon. Science is impotent on that issue - I
> would need to rely on testimony and trust. And was it science that recently
> determined John Edwards was having an affair?
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All natural things can be potentially addressed by science. But, until a
valid testable hypothesis is actually proposed to call something science
merely because it's natural is to put the cart before the horse. So, can
either or both ID and multiverses be science in the future? Yes. Is it
science now? No. What I say to proponents of both is show us your results
and call us when you have some. Until then, stop bloviating.

Rich Blinne
Member ASA

P.S. I know this will probably open a can of worms but historical evidence
can be properly science. It just takes more ingenuity on the part of the
scientist to device something that is testable. But, as I stated above you
need to announce that this is science after you have been ingenious and not
before.

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Received on Wed Aug 13 11:54:23 2008