Re: [asa] The Bible's center verse (Vernon -- please note)

From: Vernon Jenkins <vernon.jenkins@virgin.net>
Date: Sat Aug 02 2008 - 18:02:08 EDT

Hi Burgy,

Herewith, a response to your email of 30/07/08.

When I wrote (29/7/08) "I'm glad you give me the opportunity to settle this matter once for all." I was, of course. referring to my correction of certain erroneous statistics offered by the link to which you had drawn to our attention, viz. http://www.snopes.com/religion/center.asp, nothing more.

Concerning your current challenge, "Unless you are ready to assert (and give evidences) that the AV is peculiarly inspired, the stats above have no particular relevance.", let me say that while, _in themselves_, they may not constitute the kind of proof you seek, they are, I believe, significant additions to the body of evidence that speaks of an unfolding divine response to the growing assaults on the integrity of the Judeo-Christian Scriptures.

But, speaking of _evidences_, how satisfied are you with the general beliefs expressed in this forum? From my standpoint, science is a systematized body of knowledge based on facts which are observable, demonstrable and repeatable. Evolution, clearly, is a blatant contradiction of all these. And then there is your own view that planet Earth is exceedingly old. Are you able to offer an absolute proof of that? You must agree that so much is taken on trust these days; and so much rests on assumptions which are unprovable.

The Bible now speaks with a more sure, clear, voice. In particular, I believe Christians would be wise to consider whether Job 1: 6-12 and Job 2:1-7 are, after all, _fundamental truths_ that we ignore at our peril. Should we not accept that lies and deceptions - and whatever else? - might thus be incorporated into the Divine Plan; for such, it appears, has to be the extreme response demanded by the problem of fallen man (Jer.17:9).

Vernon

www.whatabeginning.com

www.otherbiblecode.com

----- Original Message -----

From: "j burg" <hossradbourne@gmail.com>
To: "Vernon Jenkins" <vernon.jenkins@virgin.net>
Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [asa] The Bible's center verse (Vernon -- please note)

> On 7/29/08, Vernon Jenkins <vernon.jenkins@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm glad you give me the opportunity to settle this matter once for all.
>
> Surely you jest!
>
>> The link you cite - for whatever reason - propagates misleading information
>> with respect to certain of these AV statistics. As one who has performed
>> the necessary research and calculations (which you may inspect at
>> http://www.whatabeginning.com/Misc/PRS/P.htm), I can confirm the following:
>> a.. There are 929 chapters in the Old Testament and 260 chapters in the
>> New Testament. This gives a total of 1,189 chapters.
>> b.. There are 23,145 verses in the Old Testament and 7,957 verses in the
>> New Testament. This gives a total of 31,102 verses.
>> c.. Psalm 117 is the shortest chapter of the Bible.
>> d.. Psalm 119 is the longest chapter of the Bible.
>> e.. Psalm 117 is the middle chapter of the Bible, being the 595th Chapter.
>> f.. Contrary to popular belief, Psalm 118 does not contain the middle
>> verse of the Bible. The King James Version has an even number of verses
>> (31,102), with the two middle verses being Psalm 103:1,2
>> As an interesting aside, based on these results and their accompanying
>> numerics (detailed in the page referred to above), it is possible to test
>> the integrity of the disputed verses, Mark 16:9-20. On the evidence
>> provided, it would appear that their inclusion in the AV is fully deserved.
>
> Unless you are ready to assert (and give evidences) that the AV is
> peculiarly inspired, the stats above have no particular relevence.
>

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