Re: [asa] Torture

Or try this one on: We *may* be willing (especially when it's hypothetical) to
sacrifice our own lives for our faith. I.e. along with the many martyrs of
history & recent times to refuse to recant of our faith under the personal
threat of pain & death. But what if the persecutor starts torturing & killing
others in front of us until we renounce our faith? What would Jesus have done
with that one? (Such things have happened in history).

And what about all the potential martyrs who couldn't bear up under the torture
and renounced their faith in the face of it. & now they are damned for eternity
on top of that? Bummer.

--Merv

Quoting j burg <hossradbourne@gmail.com>:

> In the NYT Sunday Book Review
> 'The Dark Side'
> By JANE MAYER
> Reviewed by ALAN BRINKLEY
>
> This book recounts the emergence of the use of torture as a central
> tool in the fight against terrorism.
>
> Worth reading. DEFINITELY not worth burning (tossing).
>
> Can anyone envision Jesus ordering torture?
>
> Can anyone here envision ordering torture themselves?
>
> Is it a black/white issue? Or are there shades of gray?
>
> I have you tied up in my jail cell. I am 99% sure you know where the
> bomb is that will blow up St. Louis in the next hour. I see no
> alternative but to get this information out of you by any means
> possible. Do I still rule out torture?
>
> What would Jesus do? Billy Graham? Your kindly grandmother? Your
> favored presidential candidate?
>
> What if the city were Mecca? Do the answers change?
>
> Burgy

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Received on Sat Aug 2 14:29:05 2008