Feedback on point 1:
"...since being a part of an infinite set of possibilities, there would
always be a better possibility."
I think with an infinite possibility of worlds, the perfect world could
be made.
For example, suppose there were only three variables, for a limited
example: A, B, and C.
1 = perfect, 0 = not perfect.
There are 8 possible universes, with these settings:
ABC
---- 000 001 010 011 100 101 110 111 The last case, 111, is the perfect world. Now the real world has more than 3 variables. Instead of 3, there may be a bazillion. One of the bazillion is the perfect one. ...Bernie -----Original Message----- From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Christine Smith Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:22 AM To: asa@calvin.edu Subject: [asa] Philosophical Musings on Heaven & the Problem of Evil Hi all, Thought I'd add to the mix of "problem of evil" themed threads the following musings...I hope in some way, shape, or form, they're not redundant on previous conversations...would appreciate all of your insights as always :) I recently read the book "The Unexpected Way: On Converting from Buddhism to Catholicism" by Paul Williams. Among the items in his book that I found thought-provoking was his take on the problem of evil. The basic essence of his argument is as follows: 1) Because there are, theoretically, an infinite number of universes God could have created instead of this one, it is logical contradiction to say that God could have created the "best of all possible worlds", since being a part of an infinite set of possibilities, there would always be a better possibility. Therefore, it is not a violation of God's omnipotence to say that He couldn't create the "best" world, and thus the question is reduced to "why didn't He create a BETTER universe" 2) Being God, He is under no obligation to make a better universe than the one we currently live in, if the one we currently live in suits His purpose. Therefore, God's creation of a universe that includes suffering and evil is not a problem, and indeed, should probably be expected. My musings on these lines of reasoning are as follows... Regarding #1, this sounds reasonable on the surface, but is this a correct understanding of the idea of what an infinite series means, and is it scientifically correct (so far as we can understand things) to say that there could have been an infinite number of universes created? Also, regarding the idea of the "best of all possible worlds", doesn't this equate in some sense, to what we believe heaven to be? If so, does the idea that this type of world could not be created, violate our theological creeds which state that God is the creator of "heaven" and earth, and the general understanding that Christ "came down from heaven" and "ascended to heaven". Or, rather than being the "best of all possible [created] universes", is heaven rather to be understood as the place (so to speak) where God resides, outside of created time and space? If so, then will heaven (where we will rest eternally) merely be better than our current universe, rather than the best possible universe? Is it possible that the creation of a lesser (containing more suffering & evil) universe is in some way a requirement of being able to create a better universe, thus the need to endure the lesser to get to the greater? Regarding #2, I question the premise of his argument. In the act of creation, doesn't God submit Himself to certain obligations, in the same manner that a parent is obligated to a child? Certainly, it is clear that God does submit Himself to certain obligations through the form of historical convenants with His people. Doesn't this mean that God does, in some sense, have an obligation to create a better universe than the one we are in now (or perhaps that's what He's doing as we speak?)? Thanks ahead of time for your insights and your patience as I reflect on these questions in an attempt to better articulate my own thoughts on it. In Christ, Christine (ASA member) To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with "unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with "unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message.Received on Mon Jul 28 14:38:05 2008
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