I hope I get help on this because I am not prepared to debate this, but I coudnt disagree more with George here.
If what you claim is true, then why does Christ, and other biblical authors refer to nature in many instances to illustrate a point about God? Isnt the incarnation itself part of "general revelation"?
And of course there is Isaiah 18 were we are told to look to the heavens to understand God:
18 To whom, then, will you compare God? What image will you compare him to? 19 As for an idol, a craftsman casts it, and a goldsmith overlays it with gold and fashions silver chains for it. 20 A man too poor to present such an offering selects wood that will not rot. He looks for a skilled craftsman to set up an idol that will not topple. 21 Do you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been told you from the beginning? Have you not understood since the earth was founded? 22 He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. 23 He brings princes to naught and reduces the rulers of this world to nothing. 24 No sooner are they planted, no sooner are they sown, no sooner do they take root in the ground, than he blows on them and they wither, and a whirlwind sweeps them away like chaff. 25 "To whom will you compare me? Or who is my equal?" says the Holy One. 26 Lift your eyes and look to the heavens: Who created all these? He who brings out the starry host one by one, and calls them each by name. Because of his great power and mighty strength, not one of them is missing.
And many many other examples. But you know this, so I think some clarification from you is needed because as I understand what you said, I dont think you could be more wrong.
On Tue Jun 24 8:25 , "George Murphy"