RE: [asa] The Fall (humanity source of suffering)

From: Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
Date: Wed Jun 18 2008 - 12:36:06 EDT

"That doesn't seem very convincing to me, if only because aid after
natural disasters is a relatively modern invention, as is medicine that
could actually help those people."
Good point- Bethany. I forgot about ancient catastrophes, like the
plagues and diseases, etc.

 

"Mike, if you have #2, natural evil, you run into all sorts of other
problems. "
Maybe there is no such thing as natural evil. A tsunami or earthquake
can just be a part of life... unfortunate but necessary.

 

Only humans have moral evil. If one human rapes another, that's evil.
If one animal rapes another, that is just nature, right? The difference
is that humans bear the image of God. (I used rape as an example
instead of murder because murder can be justified in some cases, whereas
rape is always wrong.)

 

...Bernie

 

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From: Bethany Sollereder [mailto:bsollereder@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:38 AM
To: Dehler, Bernie
Cc: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: [asa] The Fall (humanity source of suffering)

 

That doesn't seem very convincing to me, if only because aid after
natural disasters is a relatively modern invention, as is medicine that
could actually help those people.

Mike, if you have #2, natural evil, you run into all sorts of other
problems. The entire ecological system (food chains and such) would
have had to pop up over night. The same would be true of plate
tectonics, air and water circulation and countless other things. Can
you really blame all those on the moral choice of two humans? And,
could the world exist without those things? The world is dependent on
those cycles in order to be able to sustain life. Is that evil?

Bethany

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Dehler, Bernie
<bernie.dehler@intel.com> wrote:

You might have a point there, because even in great natural disasters,
many more are killed when aid can't reach them. Sometimes (many/most
times?) the aid is blocked because of politics and crime.

 

...Bernie

 

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