RE: [asa] a theological exercise

 If it means death of any kind, then scripture is wrong. :-/ That is the
conclusion, and we don't like that.

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  From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On
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  Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:53 PM
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  Subject: Re: [asa] a theological exercise

  "This "Death" must be something other than physical death of anything at
all. It boils down to a denial of reality."

  The problem with this is that eventually you get so far from the original
text, that it ends up being exercises in aisegesis, rather than exegesis.
As you pointed out, geocentricity was a clear teaching of scripture. We got
around that by saying "they were wrong, the earth rotates around the sun"
not by trying to reinterpret the scriptures actually be heliocentric. The
same goes for death.
  Trying to reinterpret the death in Genesis as "spiritual" death is
something I've tried to do before, but this clearly goes against the meaning
of the text (as I've been rather forcefully told by Old Testament experts).
It falls then to us to say "they were wrong, death did not begin with the
fall".
  It is incidental worldview. Let it go.

  Bethany

  On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:34 PM, skrogh. <panterragroup@mindspring.com>
wrote:

    I can see the similarities. Both require an change in a hermeneutical
approach. It was once thought that geocentricity was a clear teaching of
scripture, now we know it is not. How? By studying the actual creation. Same
thing with "No death before Sin." This "Death" must be something other than
physical death of anything at all. It boils down to a denial of reality.
Unless of course, what we see in the fossil record was all planted by God,
or Satan. I have heard both approaches, as absurd as that is, because if
what we see is real, their faith would be blown wide open.

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