RE: [asa] YEC cosmology question: astro shows

Yes, very good point, Gordon. That is strong evidence against a 6000 yr.
time frame. However, the ad hoc counter to this I heard was that photons
were created already in flight that cause us to see things this way. Simply
a ludicrous thought.

There is some greater details on measurements from 1987a here:
http://www.evolutionpages.com/SN1987a.htm

A few weeks ago, they discovered that a supernova occurred near the Milky
Way center only 140 years ago (youngest sn in our galaxy). They have
monitored the growth rate of the explosion and revised their aging of it.

Also in the last couple of weeks, came the first discovery of light echos
from a variable star.

There is much out there that all refute the counter claims of YEC in no
insignificant way, if one will simply make the effort to see the objective
evidence to support mainstream reasoning. [This is the issue Murray has
raised regarding YEC. Allow me to give it my spin: Rule #1 is the Bible is
right, Rule #2 is our interpretation is right, Rule #3 is to ignore any
contradiction and go back to Rule #1 (but don't question Rule #2!).]

George C.

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Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:14 PM
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Subject: RE: [asa] YEC cosmology question: astro shows

On Thu, 22 May 2008, George Cooper wrote:

> Though I haven't read much about the YEC view, I have had a few
discussions
> where they suggest these vast distances are legitimate, but the time it
> takes light to reach us is less than the 6000 year limit. Light, in this
> view, is either faster when afar or was much faster in the past. The
latter
> view is the predominant view of these two.

About twenty years ago a supernova was observed 168,000 light years away
in one of the Magellanic clouds. This distance was verified by observing
it light up the gas cloud in which it was contained and measuring the
angular rate at which the lighted area spread. This, of course, assumed
that the speed of light was the same when and where this occurred as it is
here on earth now. If it had been faster in the past, then the fact that
it took as long as it did to reach the angular measure that it did would
mean that it was even farther away.

Gordon Brown (ASA member)

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