Re: [asa] The Barr quote - observations on critical responses to Barr

On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:37:24 -0500 "Jon Tandy" <tandyland@earthlink.net>
writes:
> Murray,
>
> I take the comment as constructive criticism, and point well taken
> on the
> three or four individual scholars who have been mentioned as
> counter
> examples. I am really speaking from ignorance, not being well-read
> on
> scholars from "world class universities" for instance between 1940
> and 1981.
> However, I don't suppose the views held by Walton or others were
> earth
> shattering or unique in their day.
>
> On the other hand, I think the quote from AIG that you provided is
> essential
> and useful evidence in the other part of the statement. The attempt
> by YECs
> to use the Barr quote to prove the validity of their position
> (appeal to
> authority, in defense of their ultra-literal interpretation of the
> text) is
> contradicted by their own disparaging words about (presumably) some
> of those
> same "Biblical scholars".
>
> Jon Tandy
>
I love the "ultra-literal interpretation of the text." Yes, it fits the
creation of the earth and directional light to earth before the creation
of the sun. But it also oscillates between translating /raquia'/ as
atmosphere or space, and ignoring the presence of water behind where the
sun, moon and stars were placed. I like it that birds fly in front of or
under the atmosphere. This applies to penguins and cormorants, but it
would drown most members of the class Aves. The old timers got a canopy
out of the waters above the firmament, but that possibility was destroyed
by Glenn.

As to Heddle's " In what sense would an erroneous teaching of cud-chewing
rabbits be 'god breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for
correction, and for training in righteousness'" assumes also that the
correct translation of /raquia'/ must also be spiritually profitable. One
need to understand that the passages that contain spiritual information
are profitable, not every word. If his point is correct, then I have to
extract spiritual meaning from every vav-consecutive. Is the message
identical each time, or are there various beneficial teachings? On the
other hand, is Heddle going to present a measure of relevance to various
lengths of phrases?
Dave (ASA)

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Received on Sat May 17 17:15:49 2008