Re: [asa] The Barr quote

And John Walton and Henri Blocher of Wheaton; C. John Collins of Covenant;
(none of whom are day-agers BTW); and others.

But Barr's point I think is that all these evangelical efforts to understand
the text fail -- the text says what it says and is simply wrong.

So in response to YEC's who rely on the Barr quote -- relying on Barr means
you either reject any evangelical effort to understand the text as a
framework, or days of proclamation, day-age, etc., or accept that the text
is in error. Relying on Barr doesn't support the YEC view.

An interesting side note here would be the extent to which Barr's view lacks
appropriate nuance today given developments in hermeneutics, particularly
evangelical appropriations of accommodation (Peter Enns, Kenton Sparks) and
the narrative theology / theological hermeneutics movement which seems to be
bridging the old inerrantist-or-not divide a bit perhaps.

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Rich Blinne <rich.blinne@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can think of one off the top of my head. Gleason Archer, Professor of Old
> Testament and Semitics, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School.
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Randy Isaac <randyisaac@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I believe this quote from James Barr was discussed some time ago but I
>> can't seem to find it or remember what the conclusion was. Can some of
>> you please refresh my memory and give me the right perspective. A YEC'er who
>> is in dialog with me brought up that quote as follows:
>>
>> "As for what competent Hebrew scholars think about chronological
>> information in the Bible, here's a quote from James Barr, who at the time
>> was Regius Professor of Hebrew at Oxford University:
>> "... probably, so far as I know, there is no professor of Hebrew or
>> Old Testament at any world-class university who does not believe that the
>> writer(s) of Genesis 1-11 intended to convey to their readers the ideas
>> that:
>>
>> "(a) creation took place in a series of six days which were the same
>> as the days of 24 we now experience,
>>
>> "(b) the figures contained in the Genesis genealogies provided by
>> simple addition a chronology from the beginning of the world up to later
>> stages in the biblical story,
>>
>> "(c) Noah's flood was understood to be worldwide and extinguish all
>> human and animal life except for those in the ark." **"
>>
>>
>> Obviously, the argument he was raising against me was that all OT scholars
>> of repute are YEC.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>
>

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David W. Opderbeck
Associate Professor of Law
Seton Hall University Law School
Gibbons Institute of Law, Science & Technology
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