Re: [asa] Feedback wanted (resurrection)

Again let me note the statement of C.S. Lewis that I posted here recently in
another thread.

I believed in God before I believed in Heaven. And even now, even if--let's
make an impossible supposition--His voice, unmistakably His, said to me,
"They have misled you. I can do nothing of that sort for you. My long
struggle with the blind forces is nearly over. I die, children. The story is
ending"--would that be a moment for changing sides? Would not you and I take
the Viking way: "The Giants and the Trolls win. Let us die on the right
side, with Father Odin."

Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Armstrong" <jarmstro@qwest.net>
To: "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [asa] Feedback wanted (resurrection)

> So let me get this straight - if you were asked to fill a role in
> Creation, as steward of some portion of Creation, and with no promise of
> an afterlife, you would not feel it a privilege to play a role - however
> minor - in the grand unfolding of God's plan in Creation? There are many
> Christians who focus on our "work" in this world as our primary
> assignment. This does not fit my sense of futility at all.
>
> There are assuredly also many who do not have a faith perspective at all
> who nonetheless feel a keen sense of responsibility/obligation and
> opportunity to live redemptively, lovingly, and creatively "in the now".
>
> Regards - JimA [Friend of ASA]
>
> Dehler, Bernie wrote:
>
>>You might want to ask Dan Barker what reason for living he has. I've
>>heard the atheist response is "live for the moment" because that is all
>>you have, but I've heard other philosophers say that that is even
>>meaningless. I think they can only survive by blocking the question out
>>of their mind. Everyone has the hope for eternal life in some way, even
>>if it is a closet fantasy. Without that hope of eternal life,
>>everything is futile. We come from nothing and go to nothing.
>>
>>1 Cor. 15:
>>13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been
>>raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless
>>and so is your faith. 15More than that, we are then found to be false
>>witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised
>>Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are
>>not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been
>>raised either. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is
>>futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen
>>asleep in Christ are lost. 19If only for this life we have hope in
>>Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
>>Behalf Of rcmetcalf@thinkagain.us
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:50 AM
>>To: asa@calvin.edu
>>Subject: [asa] Feedback wanted
>>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I only recently joined this mailing list after a visit with Randy Isaac.
>>I've been a member of ASA for quite a while, but somehow missed these
>>discussions (in part because my time is rather full already!). Randy
>>urged
>>me to join and I've enjoyed following some of the threads.
>>
>>Since many of you have backgrounds in physics, I have a small request...
>>My visit with Randy was preceded by an invitation to Tufts to debate Dan
>>Barker on the Resurrection. I recently placed my opening presentation
>>for
>>the debate on YouTube.com. I was hoping some of you might be willing to
>>look at it and offer feedback here in a thread. Constructive criticism,
>>comments, praise, etc... are all welcome. The video had to be split into
>>four parts since YouTube has a 10 minute upload limit. The total time is
>>around 35 minutes. Search for Tufts Metcalf-Barker Debate to find it.
>>
>>I'll be lecturing on this on Saturday at New Life Church here in
>>Colorado
>>Springs, so your feedback will be quite valuable. Thank you so much!
>>
>>Blessings & grace,
>>RC Metcalf
>>
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