Re: [asa] Humanity and the Fall: Questions and a Survey

From: David Opderbeck <dopderbeck@gmail.com>
Date: Sun May 04 2008 - 21:36:13 EDT

Rich said: The question is whether Scripture requires Adam and Eve to be
the genetic forebears of all humans.

I respond: Yes, it's that, but it's also the Fall. However we might
qualify what the Fall means, surely it affects human life and relationship
in a way that is not the least reflected in the scientific story. At some
point -- this point -- don't we truly have conflicting stories?

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Rich Blinne <rich.blinne@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On May 4, 2008, at 7:16 PM, David Opderbeck wrote:
>
> Rich, this is very impressive, and apparently unassailable on its own
> > merits, at least by someone like me, who really doesn't have the ability to
> > study the primary literature and data intesively. Nevertheless, it
> > conflicts with scripture, at least seemingly so, and many theologians of
> > various stripes see it is a serious theological problem, much more serious
> > than geocentrism or the days of creation. Is this not a place where we say,
> > "thus far shall you go and no further?" Have we not reached here a place
> > where the scientific method, which properly cannot admit miracles, is
> > incompetent to deliver to us the Truth?
> >
>
> The question is whether Scripture requires Adam and Eve to be the genetic
> forebears of all humans. I don't see that particularly since Jesus isn't
> either. In the debate of the timing for Adam and Eve the later, ANE context
> and the older African one have equal problems above because even here you
> have a group of individuals. (Here's where the name Mitochondrial Eve leads
> people astray there is not a single such "Eve" either.) Therefore, there is
> no good reason to go with the later dates. I suppose it could be real easy
> to go really far with this but as you say why should we?
>
> Rich Blinne
> Member ASA
>

-- 
David W. Opderbeck
Associate Professor of Law
Seton Hall University Law School
Gibbons Institute of Law, Science & Technology
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