Re: [asa] Neo-Darwinism and God's action

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, David Opderbeck wrote:

> Fascinating question. Can we speculate that (a) our "present sufferings"
> are part of the tutalage we need so that we will not use our free will to
> repeat Adam's sin in the new creation; (b) Christ's victory on the cross and
> the final consignment of the demonic powers to hell as a result of that
> victory ultimately will remove a persistent source of temptation and
> disorder; and (c) the power of the Resurrection of Christ manifested in the
> resurrection of the redeemed will enable us to be transformed physically and
> mentally in ways that support the choice to live in loving fellowship with
> God and others?
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:46 PM, gordon brown <Gordon.Brown@colorado.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008, David Opderbeck wrote:
>>
>>> One classical answer to this problem -- not limited to YECs -- is that
>> God
>>> created free beings because of love. In his love, God desires us to
>> have
>>> freedom; but freedom implies the ability to choose wrongly.
>>
>> Do we need to define what we mean by freedom? It is implied that freedom
>> is good but has to have a downside. If it is good, then presumably we will
>> have it in the next life, but will it have to have a downside there too?
>>
>> Gordon Brown (ASA member)

Westminster Confession IX.V: The will of man is made perfectly and
immutably free to good alone, in the state of glory only.

This is the type of freedom that the Confession sees as most desirable.

Gordon Brown (ASA member)

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Received on Thu Feb 21 21:38:55 2008