Re: [asa] A case of non-biological ID

Hi Dick,

Sorry to confuse you. By 'alternative reading' I was, of course, referring to the numbers which - since circa 200 BC when the Jews introduced their system of alphabetic numeration - derive naturally from the original Hebrew words.- a fair proces with which you, clearly, are well acquainted.

However, regarding 666, the matter is not as trite as you appear to suggest. In my page 'An Obligation Declined' (www.whatabeginning.com/ObDec.htm) I draw attention to the fact that the riddle of Rv.13:18 is one _posed by the Lord Himself_ - and, as such, is undoubtedly one that demands a positive response from every Christian believer.

Obviously I take issue with Rich concerning his belief that ' 666 ' should read ' 616 '. My reasons for so doing are presented in an appendix to the page referenced above.

Regards,

Vernon

From: Dick Fischer
  To: ASA
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:00 PM
  Subject: RE: [asa] A case of non-biological ID

  How can original Hebrew have a "fair alternative reading"? What words or letters need to be altered to make the numbers work? And 666 is just code for Nero so John wouldn't get martyred. No other significance besides that. Had his name been different the numbers would have been similarly affected. I think your "cast iron" is a wee bit rusty.

  Dick Fischer

  Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association

  Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History

  www.genesisproclaimed.org

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  From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Vernon Jenkins
  Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:35 AM
  To: asa@calvin.edu
  Subject: [asa] A case of non-biological ID

  Forum,

  I submit the following notice (which appears in the current issue of the Journal of the Scientific and Medical Network) for the attention of new members and for those Christians who may wish to be reminded of relevant, cast iron, facts.

     Here is a mystery. It transpires that a fair alternative reading of the Hebrew of the Bible's first verse uncovers a structure of coordinated numerical geometries which, in all its essentials, incorporates information delivered expressly in the Greek of verse 13:18 of its final book, Revelation. Key to the whole matter is the understanding that 666 has a substantial extrabiblical presence, (1) as epitome of triangularity and, (2) as first triangular multiple of the unique number 37. In the first of these roles, all its numerical attributes are observed to be triangles - their sum, the unique cube 216, or 6x6x6. In the second, the Genesis 1:1 structure is observed to comprise the first three triangular multiples of 37 - the third being 2701 (sum of the 7 words) having a perimeter of 216.

     To whom will we attribute this impressive feat of non-biological intelligent design? - for the inference must be that, from the beginning, it was planned that the Bible should be a self-authenticating text!

  www.otherbiblecode.com

  www.whatabeginning.com

  A concise overview of these phenomena may be found at www.whatabeginning.com/Misc/Wonders/P.htm and www.whatabeginning.com/ObDec.htm

  Vernon

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Received on Wed Jan 9 15:02:44 2008