I meant to send this to the whole list.
---- From: Steven M Smith <smsmith.asa@gmail.com> Date: Jan 7, 2008 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [asa] Monkey Trials and Gorilla Sermons To: Gregory Arago gregoryarago@yahoo.ca On Jan 6, 2008 2:07 AM, Gregory Arago <gregoryarago@yahoo.ca> wrote: > Yes, Bowler is provocative to TE's, EC's and non-evolutionists each in > their own way. I'm curious: Why do you restrict the ideology of > 'evolutionism' to a naturalistic philosophical position? Surely the > over-application of 'evolution' as simply meaning 'change-over-time' (and > thus giving it a monopoly over 'change,' which is arguably a larger concept > than evolution) can happen outside of the category 'natural.' .... [Snipped].... *Steven M Smith <smsmith.asa@gmail.com>* wrote: .... [Snipped].... > The other pet peeve that annoyed me was his use of the term > "evolutionism." For Bowler, "evolutionism" was a general term that included > all of the ideas of evolution -- "change over time," "common ancestry," and > "natural selection." I personally prefer to see that term restricted to the > naturalistic philosophical position that "evolution removes any need for and > proves the absence of a creator God." > > Gregory, I have no desire to get into a discussion over the philosophical implications of the term "natural." That subject was beat to death on this list during November. I saw no reason to join that discussion then and have nothing to add to it at this time. So like a politician (which I am not) I will use your question as an excuse to clarify my point about "evolutionism." Many on-line discussions concerning evolution suffer from a lack of precisely defined terms. "Evolution" itself is one of the worst offenders. We frequently hear someone say that "Evolution is a fact" or "Evolution is a theory" or "Evolution is a religion." And I would contend that because the term "evolution" has become so imprecise that each of these statements can be true depending on how you define the word. Therefore, when discussing the subject, I prefer using more direct terms to indicate meanings that are often mixed in the word "evolution." For example, all of the following ideas (right or wrong) have at some time been referred to simply as "evolution": "change over time", "change in the frequency of alleles within a population", "descent with modification", "natural selection", "inheritance of acquired characteristics", "molecules to man", "Big Bang to us", "speciation", "a process that does not require a Creator God", or even simply "atheism." Thus if we want a general term that includes all of the ideas expressed about evolution, the term "evolution" itself is sufficiently generalized. Adding the suffix "-ism" to a word generally denotes an ideology or philosophy based on the named person or idea. A philosophy that considers science to be the answer to all of man's problems or the standard by which all other ideas are judged becomes "scientism." In like manner, the philosophy that evolution proves that there was no Creator God has been defined in many places as "evolutionism." By this definition, evolutionism is a probably a subset of the ideology of scientism. This is the restricted sense in which many people use the term "evolutionism." My peeve with Peter J. Bowler's book is that he uses the word "evolutionism" as a general term to refer to all of the different beliefs about evolution. I simply do not like to see a word with a well-defined meaning used so imprecisely when there is another word ( i.e., evolution) that has already been mongrelized. Steve "Don Quixote" Smith To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with "unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message.Received on Mon Jan 7 22:53:45 2008
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