Re: [asa] Teaching ID and teaching that Gobal Warming is not real

At 12:15 PM 1/5/2008, Rich Blinne wrote:

>Yeah. Makes you REAL confident in these "prominent" scientists.

@ Yeah. Speaking of having confidence in "prominent" scientists:

The John ('Unless we announce disasters, no one will listen' )
Houghton: "human induced global warming is a weapon of mass
destruction at least as dangerous as chemical, nuclear or biological
weapons that kills more people than terrorism." ~ John Houghton
Monday July 28, 2003

  "The evolution of the scientific debate about anthropogenic climate
change illustrates both the value of skepticism and the pitfalls of
partisanship.".. Scientists ... reputation for impartiality is
severely compromised by the shocking lack of p olitical diversity
among American academics, who suffer from the kind of group-think
that develops in cloistered cultures. Until this profound and
well documented intellectual homogeneity changes , scientists will
be suspected of constituting a leftist-think-tank." "On the left, an
argument emerged urging fellow scientists to deliberately exaggerate
their findings so as to galvanize an apathetic public...

"Had it not been for green opposition, the United States today might
derive most of its electricity from nuclear power, as does France;
thus the environmentalists must accept a large measure of
responsibility for today's most critical environmental
problem." ~ K Emmanuel - MIT

  "I don't believe God is going to condemn a person who is ignorant
of the scientific facts and simply chooses to believe a ...assertion
...... However, lying about what science actually "proves" is not
something a Christian should do. If one is going to claim a
scientifically verifiable explanation (or even invoke an unproved
hypothesis), then there needs to be a forthright acknowledgement of
the scientific evidence or lack thereof. .." ~ Jon Tandy Thu, 11
Oct 2007 09:30:19 RE: [asa] Denver RATE Conference (Thousands...Not
Billions)_Part 6 & The End

"The scientists who are convinced that global warming is a serious
problem....need to distance themselves from the environmental
movement, who have turned conservatives off with their socialist,
pantheistic and oppressive government ways. If they will do that
perhaps some intelligent discussion can take place, which will lead
to real solutions. ~ Bill Hamilton Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:05 (PST) Re:
[asa] Why the opposition to global
warming http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/200702/0033.html

"One point that keeps coming up that bothers me is "The consensus
view is ..." or "99% of climatologists say ..." I have tried without
success to get Pim Van Muers to state what would be the consequences
of doing nothing. If the problem is real, policymakers need to
undersatand what would be the likely consequences of various
actions. Basing actions on the precautionary principle is not
wise." ~ Bill Hamilton Wed, 17 Jan 2007 6:24 PM (PST)
Re: [asa] Global Warming, Ethics, and Social
Sciences http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/200701/0386.html

  "..there are "scientists" in abundance who ...are not shy about
arguing "junkscience," citing only favorable evidence while ignoring
the contrary, thereby risking not only their own reputations, but
also that of the profession we all love. The authors cite an
abundance of instances, some involving scientists of nationwide
stature. Frankly, I felt sick as I read this book. .. The authors
show how easy it is to buffalo the media, and by extension, the
public, by pseudoscientific claims made by "real" scientists whose
intellectual heritage is that of nineteenth- century snake oil
salesmen. To conclude this review, I will illustrate its disturbing
message by telling an old, stale joke. Why do they bury scientists
twelve feet down? Because, deep down, they are really good people.
Oops! Not funny! That should be some other profession, not
"scientists!" .... Other professions have their share of shysters.
So does the scientific profession. The public just has not picked up
on us yet. It is clear that far too many in our profession have lost
their way. Are they a small minority? I would like to think so. Do
they have a bad influence in our society? Yes. Is this a good thing?
Clearly, no. .." ~ J. Bu rgeson reviewing TRUST US, WE'RE
EXPERTS... http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/200709/0311.html

~ Janice ... "The climate modelers have been cheating for so long
it's almost become respectable" (Richard Kerr, discussing adjustments
in climate models, Science 1997)

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