RE: [asa] Luke 3 Geneology of Jesus

And a Happy Mithras to you, Jack.

Dick Fischer

Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association

Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History

 <http://www.genesisproclaimed.org/> www.genesisproclaimed.org

-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 11:05 PM
To: Dick Fischer; ASA
Subject: Re: [asa] Luke 3 Geneology of Jesus

Yea dont forget those scribes have been there since antiquity so there
is no reason to doubt the truthfulness of the genealogies.

It could be as simple as, Luke just got it wrong. Just like Matthew
did not understand that the word virgin was a mistranslation of the
orginal Hebrew in the Septuagint version of Isaiah 7:14 and perpetuated
the virgin birth myth. In both cases they were well meaning, they just
did not know any better.

Merry Christmas!

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From: Dick <mailto:dickfischer@verizon.net> Fischer

To: ASA <mailto:asa@calvin.edu>

Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:17 PM

Subject: RE: [asa] Luke 3 Geneology of Jesus

Hi David:

Well first you have to assign some degree of credibility to the
genealogies. Some feel the need to drive Adam back into antiquity and
therefore need to discount the genealogies as a strict line of descent.
Those who think Adam was some type of theological construct have to
mediate Scripture to some degree so they can at least believe the parts
dealing with Christ. Luke didn't need to interview a host of Jews to
get his historical facts right. The genealogy of every Hebrew was in
the temple at Jerusalem. Scribes carefully recorded every birth so they
would know to which of the twelve tribes each person belonged. All Luke
had to do was trot down to the temple and look up the records. He could
have looked up the pedigree of anyone if he had any interest.

As to the "special creation" of Adam, we have an example in Genesis One
where God "created" the great sea creatures ("whales" in the KJV),
although we pretty much know that the mode of creation was through the
natural process of evolution from earlier creatures. This gives us a
means to explain Adam's creation through the same mode and still stay
roughly within the bounds of Scripture. I think the "special creation"
of Adam could have been a de nouveau creation event as it would explain
the longevity of the Adamites. Gradually dilution through intermarriage
brought their life spans down to more normal proportions after Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob.

Dick Fischer

Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association

Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History

 <http://www.genesisproclaimed.org/> www.genesisproclaimed.org

-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of David Opderbeck
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 4:54 PM
To: asA
Subject: [asa] Luke 3 Geneology of Jesus

Why doesn't the geneology in Luke 3, tracing Joseph back to Adam "the
son of God," falsify any claim that (a) Adam wasn't a real person; and
(b) Adam wasn't specially created by God?

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Received on Tue Dec 25 12:05:15 2007