Re: [asa] Origin's debate: <need help> the positions and their champions

I think Davies is more pantheist than deist:? that is, he is?a monist rather than a monotheist; he does not?think "God" (or "god") is separate in essence from the universe itself.? This would be along the same lines?as?the pantheistic?god?in Hinduism.

I think Einstein was probably in the same camp.

What distinguishes Einstein's and Davies' views?from materialistic atheism is that they both believe(d) there is some kind of infinite mind behind everything.? Mind is not merely an emergent phenomenon from mindless matter.? But what distinguishes their view?from monotheism is that this infinite mind is inseparable from the universe; that the mind did not, as an unconstrained choice, create the universe to be an entity separate?from itself.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Roberts <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
To: Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com>; asa@calvin.edu
Sent: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: [asa] Origin's debate: <need help> the positions and their champions

YEC Ken Ham

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OEC Ross

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TE/Evangelical Francis Collins , Denis Alexander - go to Christians in Science website for a good article

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TE Process Arthur Peacocke - weak on atonement

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DE suggest Paul Davies?

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AE Dawkins, or Stephen Gould for a nicer one!

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Michael

----- Original Message -----

From: Dehler, Bernie

To: asa@calvin.edu

Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 4:28 PM

Subject: [asa] Origin's debate: <need help> the positions and their champions

I'm preparing a class (proposal) on the origins debate for my church.

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I plan on saying there are currently 5 positions, with champions:

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OEC: Old Earth Creationism, Ken Ham

YEC: Young Earth Creationism, Hugh Ross

TE: Theistic Evolution, Francis Collins

DE: Deistic Evolution, <champion?>

AE: Atheistic Evolution, Richard Dawkins

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I don't have a champion for DE.? Does anyone know one? I haven't studied that part yet.? I'm open to suggestions.

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...Bernie

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