Re: [asa] Origins: Francis Collins and ID

Hello Bernie,
   
  Please excuse if you might have said this on another thread, but I'm curious what your educational background is. Could you say what your disciplinary perspective is in asking 'how can evolution (as if it is some autonomous thing that can have a dialogue with people) explain...'?
   
  You wrote: I work at Intel in CPU design...
   
  Should I assume you are a computer programmer (computer science) or engineer (computer engineer)?
   
  You also wrote: Or am I just putting God in there because I can’t appreciate the time element of evolution?...
   
  Shall we assume you are not a historian, not appreciative of the 'time element' of (and I am guessing you are referring to the biological variety of) evolution?
   
  Likewise: I would like to know what the other theistic evolutionists have to say on this topic.
   
  Should we assume you are a 'theistic evolutionist,' since you address 'the other' TEs?
   
  Thanks,
  Gregory
  

"Dehler, Bernie" <bernie.dehler@intel.com> wrote:
                Hi all, a question I have; maybe you can help me.
   
    Given that evolution actually happened because of evidence in biology (genome evidence), how can evolution explain the complexity of things like the eye?
   
    Francis Collins says the answer is to appreciate the vast amounts of time.
   
    This still bothers me.
   
    I’m perplexed because I see both sides. The genome shows proof that evolution happened. Yet, using reason, it seems impossible that an undirected evolution can create something as complex as the human eye (no matter how much time is involved). (I work at Intel in CPU design, and even though out CPU’s are super complex, it is nothing near as complex as our body, DNA, etc.).
   
    I wonder if the solution is to see evolution as God-directed. DNA is like a programming code, God is the programmer, directly manipulating the code. It is like intelligently solving the rubic’s cube (toy) by one turn at a time. Randomly, you could solve a rubic’s cube given enough time, but intelligence would do it rather quickly. Is this solution contrary to science? Is this the point where naturalistic science and God meet? Or am I just putting God in there because I can’t appreciate the time element of evolution? (Some think that nature alone can evolve, and that by God’s design upfront with the anthropic principle... designing everything upfront so it would unravel correctly from a big bang.)
   
    I would like to know what the other theistic evolutionists have to say on this topic.

       
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Received on Mon Dec 3 16:09:17 2007