I like Dave's approach. In answer to Jack's comment: "How can some admit old age on one hand
and hold to a young age on the other?" I would say that people like Kurt Wise are simply admitting that there is a conflict between their interpretation of Scripture and geology, and they're not going to try to force-fit one to the other. I think that if we were to include a statement that young earth interpretation of Scripture is incorrect, we might be accused of treading on theology's turf.
Having said that, I would welcome a program within ASA or perhaps jointly by ASA and a seminary aimed at teaching valid means of interpreting Scripture in the Old Earth context.
Bill Hamilton
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----- Original Message ----
From: "D. F. Siemens, Jr." <dfsiemensjr@juno.com>
To: drsyme@cablespeed.com
Cc: williamehamiltonjr@yahoo.com; asa@lists.calvin.edu; gmurphy@raex.com
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:30:29 AM
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We already implicitly specify the integrity of scientific study, so what
seems to me to be needed is a statement that science provides full evidence for
the antiquity of the earth and universe along with a statement that there is no
absolute commitment required for membership beyond the theological.
Dave
On Thu, 10 May 2007 22:49:21 -0400 "Jack" <drsyme@cablespeed.com> writes:
That would be incomplete. If left the way
you stated it would be senseless. How can some admit old age on one hand
and hold to a young age on the other? There would have to be another
statement explaining how "some Christians" resolve the conflict.
I think we need to make a firmer stand and claim
that not only the physical evidence supports an old earth, but that biblical
interpretations that claim that the earth MUST be young, are
incorrect.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Bill Hamilton
To: ASA List
Cc: George Murphy
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:39
PM
George
wrote
A good deal has been made of the fact
that there are a few scientifically trained YECs who are honest about the
fact that present-day science points to an old earth but who themselves
believe in a young earth because of their theological position. It
might be unfortunate if they had to leave ASA because of the organization
taking an old-earth position but that may be the prcise for organizational
integrity and credibility. & there have always been intelligent fellow Christians who
didn't meet the criteria for membership.
Possibly we could enable some of these folks to
stay in, if our policy stated'
1. The physical evidence points to an
old earth
2. We recognize that some Christians, while admitting the
above, hold to a young earth on Scriptural grounds
Bill Hamilton
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Ph.D.
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