Re: [asa] Does ASA believe in Adam and Eve?

From: George Murphy <gmurphy@raex.com>
Date: Thu Mar 29 2007 - 18:02:58 EDT

David -

I can only repeat - & won't repeat again - that "judgment" is not the primary theme of II Peter 3:1-10, & that to say that the question is not about "the scope of the present judgment" is a red herring: It's not about judgment at all.

Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: David Opderbeck
  To: George Murphy
  Cc: ASA list
  Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 2:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [asa] Does ASA believe in Adam and Eve?

  I am simply pointing out the most basic point that the writer is making - that the promised end is an end for the whole present order of creation. OTOH, by trying to limit the scope of the destruction you are the one who is insisting on geographical details.
   
  You may be misunderstanding me on one point: I am not suggesting any limitation on the scope of the final judgment. (To be even more clear, I'm amillennial, not a preterist). I agree that the final judgment is an end for the whole present order of creation. However, I disagree that the most basic point the writer is making in 2 Peter chapter 3 is about the scope of the final judgment. The most basic point in chapter 3 it is about the suddenness of the final judgment, not its scope. I think the context makes that abundantly clear. The universal scope of the final judgment, I think, isn't a matter of any particular proof-text, but rather is implicit in the broader themes of the apocalyptic literature. And regardless, like many other typologies in scripture, the use of the flood as a type of the final judgment doesn't imply that the scope and nature of the type is precisely the same as the scope and nature of that which it typifies.

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